Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iFXmu-0005rG-Kj for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2019 06:07:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iFXmr-00038r-Mo for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2019 06:06:57 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iFXmr-00038a-CK for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2019 06:06:57 +0000 Received: from tamriel.snowman.net ([96.255.250.162]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iFXmo-0004Vv-PV for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2019 06:06:56 +0000 Received: by tamriel.snowman.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 17A435F79F; Wed, 2 Oct 2019 02:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 02:06:53 -0400 From: Stephen Frost To: Peter Eisentraut Cc: Dave Cramer , Renee , pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: I'm surprised to see the word master here Message-ID: <20191002060653.GC6962@tamriel.snowman.net> References: <156935509221.1111.13488785881287521100@wrigleys.postgresql.org> <0268aaf1-02e2-9d29-a751-ec42c21a889f@2ndquadrant.com> <36E41634-B602-4D7C-8ACE-7EA03D2DF6E5@gmail.com> <86ee53bd-e016-86c8-3c20-41702c48a12f@2ndquadrant.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qmBuAndjKAI5nt1w" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86ee53bd-e016-86c8-3c20-41702c48a12f@2ndquadrant.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --qmBuAndjKAI5nt1w Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, * Peter Eisentraut (peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com) wrote: > On 2019-09-25 00:28, Dave Cramer wrote: > > Ya, I was under that impression as well.=A0 > >=20 > > Dave Cramer > >=20 > >=20 > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 18:18, Renee > > wrote: > >=20 > > I was under the impression that both terms were being deprecated. Is > > that only the case when they appear in tandem? >=20 > Again, you might be confusing this. I don't recall any such initiative > nor do I see any commits to that effect. Alright then, given we have multiple people asking about this- should we be considering adopting different language, even if we hadn't previously had such an initiative? I know that I tend towards primary/replica when discussing physical replication, and we do that quite a bit in the documentation (consider https://www.postgresql.org/docs/11/warm-standby.html where we seem to be pretty confused about if we want to talk about the system as a 'primary' or as a 'master'- but *clearly* primary is winning the war there). Even if we aren't avoiding the term for its negative connotations explicitly, having some consistency here strikes me as worthwhile. Thanks, Stephen --qmBuAndjKAI5nt1w Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJdlD59AAoJEO1sijiDR2RVPr8P/je9kEtCvzHbAngNiXVCRoWs LNskGFf8VAmn5/uyu4XxnqmLl6mRRDsz2mhOtwrdbajC9WhX7g7QhwICBOMucHvA VDAgIrSOYjCMBIbigvqpPUGL7H3IEafZtMSonOAGnXqYxUJDGpf668KoDUp2GFy/ EVUGzEclI9GtxetpnCipH7vL0AIm0NohzU5Kc8OPoEpPajeMkqEEIxqG0NY7Zc8l S91d9MAWykGbJSAvw9gemEsM/lEnwBb7tFVXWRWyvcz044FW23ux49kUe88+w+M2 CthBJ2z+12HKtid84Oa/DdoTnyOwzmMYy76CMUiXhBJfAGwI2vLYzhobWYZoYzO5 aZX4JB7AOktDAhRRePFDkWB8tvuST4aPeU5XciqHGDKaG1Qd9EuAIkXG3DpC1h5d rWfGmJAl2TlFG7WnrthGKMKn9dJxwX8Dr0z9qGfVe1PdJLpaOigHvz0CayWBMC8o C5s2pH90xxdhxIJ/WfR5zlug41/1b44aPTyIBDFTvXuvtYS0Td0Xe00TGJKCnL4k 2CqA6boIMNxRGxIkvGnwYct3q7rFP2EkPWiy6sSbSR5hYOfcvbev61gE8+smN9RE 9fmoHg2YFfX/s+3tyfIH87zh4HrzNr9GupiyS5hmMAG6ridKFWgIX83PIJoa6u95 vUryEgSoSeNUiwCVgwL5 =vFQ1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qmBuAndjKAI5nt1w--