Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iyjDb-0004Oc-2M for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2020 21:25:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iyjDZ-00022i-S1 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2020 21:25:17 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iyjDZ-00022a-CR for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2020 21:25:17 +0000 Received: from mail-qv1-xf44.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::f44]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iyjDW-0003qb-ID for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2020 21:25:16 +0000 Received: by mail-qv1-xf44.google.com with SMTP id o18so7572499qvf.1 for ; Mon, 03 Feb 2020 13:25:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=2ndquadrant-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=NQL3ZehCrmfeA8kq4cW2pYOjLaCGSv3C61dk7EybnYw=; b=qxmtGPyWw9/g2cJ3nF8+H2Afrx+N/YecQSoipoYnbICyARU6nQOK9iCe6T0treqF2q kV0pYRQF7VuoZsE/riRw8aO527Idiib6mXz/8zVdJnLLXPDphEuCORbw24O3OJG4uPDc Zd/zjJG7UgS12cN2srZYpay71cMPSO1UYRgqCcdya/F7DfHG9eaS+wIOlGOUoTA18YWE dkoqKmHcUl3mTnasBF3ZY2i2MPHid68qZ2KjLsSYGV90fiHrXE1WEL78pnVEWjWEyui6 j+Non9fd41YOBP5dp8lFlqN6VWipM/wSw91Y1yorfIU6VIxmZbvnHltbCtwqnXQSDsZK UaWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=NQL3ZehCrmfeA8kq4cW2pYOjLaCGSv3C61dk7EybnYw=; b=V5AHlvB2QnO1Q1bG7OJgtFPlHG5F2RnEBcDqqhRe/3K0K76zMeGVur2Dp+WyCgdiAW lZDGwY2jxpeQ6oJzDFXCvQokUtNUaaXy6H5YR4nbbzTtvpBQ8a2/KVNPxNAYviZz/tk5 poZVd0IwO38iyEkQ99fja6cgUtJsi++96+una64/7+pgMBZOMINwbDgRaxvJcZstelcS U4CcXJCm+kTYLKlpYleBAWCgknj0UtohPRTpcp777xFoZTA3b6/5hAeoxSdRSdHJhG2q jq8Ha3Z9jwOyXlzvKWgJ0fHdLumf4ltEAeXkia7YXwnE9LQJeOBrDiAR6KvTNUGrcUrG uuOA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUPTqAjo5oZtU1ulMJYPDWSH6T5DgUcIIWoY6HIMb0GqALim3lz Vz5vqCBHcwo2f0Az9+uVl7xbVg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx0kSxdMlC2ZMhIIrJNrS1iZ0yaMtgbl82kkw/4yJCWL296eTR7AJI7tF+FMS0mDD5+TJXQzg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:192f:: with SMTP id es15mr25003381qvb.219.1580765113486; Mon, 03 Feb 2020 13:25:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nimloth.alvh.no-ip.org ([190.217.181.3]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e130sm9917547qkb.72.2020.02.03.13.25.12 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 03 Feb 2020 13:25:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by nimloth.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B259730082D; Mon, 3 Feb 2020 18:25:10 -0300 (-03) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 18:25:10 -0300 From: Alvaro Herrera To: "Jonathan S. Katz" Cc: Bruce Momjian , R Ransbottom , Ian Barwick , Stephen Frost , Laurenz Albe , pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: Documentation: 21.5. Default Roles Message-ID: <20200203212510.GA16484@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3b1f6cb3-4a6c-fff7-59ae-b8ce0a9866d8@postgresql.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 2020-Feb-03, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > So, if there was something done to redirect people from specific > deprecated documentation pages historically, it was before my time. Most > of the redirects have been as general purposes ones (e.g. /docs/12), the > rules we put in for getting rid of "static", and the release notes, > which still receives some negative feedback towards it for different > reasons (though I think overall the effort was well-received). Anyway, > if we had a redirect in place, I'd want us to do it well. I +1 changing the title and +1 having the redirect. That said, I think people landing in a page titled "predefined roles" when they're looking for a page titled "default roles" would be quite confused for a while and perhaps continue to search for the page they think they're looking for. (I know, it has happened to me.) I suggest we add a very short paragraph --maybe a -- to the effect that feature-X used to be called feature-Y, immediately following the section title. -- Álvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services