Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jFfA1-0001bN-I8 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2020 14:31:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1jFfA0-0004ug-2d for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2020 14:31:36 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1jFf9z-0004uZ-ML for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2020 14:31:35 +0000 Received: from momjian.us ([72.94.173.45]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jFf9x-0004sj-AZ for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 21 Mar 2020 14:31:34 +0000 Received: from bruce by momjian.us with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jFf9w-0003kK-Ij; Sat, 21 Mar 2020 10:31:32 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 10:31:32 -0400 From: Bruce Momjian To: Sergei Agalakov Cc: pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: Incomplete or misleading explanation of the data types for mathematical operators Message-ID: <20200321143132.GG10066@momjian.us> References: <158032651854.19851.16261832706661813796@wrigleys.postgresql.org> <20200306022912.GB10548@momjian.us> <4d9d1083-b876-f90c-ace6-95df64153ecb@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4d9d1083-b876-f90c-ace6-95df64153ecb@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 08:03:19PM -0700, Sergei Agalakov wrote: > On 3/5/2020 7:29 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 07:35:18PM +0000, PG Doc comments form wrote: > > > Multiplication preserves data type, exponentiation silently converts bigint > > > to double, but preserves numeric data type, square root silently converts > > > both int and numeric types to double. > > > The best would be to explain this behaivior of operators like it was done > > > for mathematical functions. > > Uh, how does this relate to bitwise operators? Why would we mention > > type changes for things like exponentiation in the bitwise operator > > documentation section? > > > This chapter is named "Mathematical Functions and Operators". The table 9.4. > is named "Mathematical Operators". I don't see on this page any section > "Bitwise operators" so I don't really understand your complaint. > How do you understand the phrase "The bitwise operators work only on > integral data types, whereas the others are available for all numeric data > types. "  in the context of the table "Mathematical Operators"? > I understand it that all other mathematical operators except bitwise > operators do exist for all numeric data type. > In what place by your opinion documentation should describe that some > mathematical operators exist only for some numeric data types but not > others? > I have given examples of such operators - exponentiation and square root > aren't defined for all numeric data types and do hidden conversion of the > data types. Ah, I see what you are saying now --- there are operators listed above that are not supported by all numeric data types, so "the others are available for all numeric data types" is false. I think the text was written because non-integer calls to bit-wise functions _fail_, rather than being silently converted: SELECT 1::float4 | 1; ERROR: operator does not exist: real | integer LINE 1: SELECT 1::float4 | 1; ^ HINT: No operator matches the given name and argument types. You might need to add explicit type casts. but I see your point. I guess we could change the word "available" to "silently converted", but it seems best to just remove that phrase. Documentation patch attached. -- Bruce Momjian https://momjian.us EnterpriseDB https://enterprisedb.com + As you are, so once was I. As I am, so you will be. + + Ancient Roman grave inscription + --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/x-diff; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="bit.diff" diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/func.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/func.sgml index 464a48ed6a..e1d70c251d 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/func.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/func.sgml @@ -732,9 +732,8 @@ - The bitwise operators work only on integral data types, whereas - the others are available for all numeric data types. The bitwise - operators are also available for the bit + The bitwise operators work only on integral data types, and are also + available for the bit string types bit and bit varying, as shown in . --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ--