Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kAdo1-0000zG-97 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 18:36:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kAdo0-0003oV-0u for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 18:36:24 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kAdnz-0003oO-RH for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 18:36:23 +0000 Received: from momjian.us ([72.94.173.45]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kAdnx-0006c3-8q for pgsql-docs@postgresql.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 18:36:23 +0000 Received: from bruce by momjian.us with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kAdnv-0006no-OQ for pgsql-docs@postgresql.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 14:36:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 14:36:19 -0400 From: Bruce Momjian To: PostgreSQL-documentation Subject: Add comma after e.g. and i.e.? Message-ID: <20200825183619.GA22369@momjian.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk We are inconsistently about adding a comma after e.g. and i.e.: $ cd doc/src/sgml/ $ cat *.sgml */*.sgml | egrep -c '(e\.g\.|i\.e\.),' 255 $ cat *.sgml */*.sgml | egrep -c '(e\.g\.|i\.e\.)[^,:]' 87 I removed the colon because using a trailing colon is always valid in context. This summarizes the recommended behavior: https://jakubmarian.com/comma-after-i-e-and-e-g/ In British English, “i.e.” and “e.g.” are not followed by a comma, so the first example above would be: They sell computer components, e.g. motherboards, graphic cards, CPUs. Virtually all American style guides recommend to follow both “i.e.” and “e.g.” with a comma (just like if “that is” and “for example” were used instead), so the very same sentence in American English would become: So, what do we want to do? Leave it unchanged, or pick one of these styles? -- Bruce Momjian https://momjian.us EnterpriseDB https://enterprisedb.com The usefulness of a cup is in its emptiness, Bruce Lee