Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l0T26-0003sy-TL for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2021 17:37:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l0T25-0005iG-SY for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2021 17:37:09 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l0T25-0005hf-N9 for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2021 17:37:09 +0000 Received: from momjian.us ([72.94.173.45]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l0T23-0001Nc-Bm for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2021 17:37:08 +0000 Received: from bruce by momjian.us with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l0T21-0005K0-SL; Fri, 15 Jan 2021 12:37:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 12:37:05 -0500 From: Bruce Momjian To: jon77h@gmail.com, pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: i.e. and e.g. used with incorrect meaning Message-ID: <20210115173705.GA8740@momjian.us> References: <161063014110.12228.7559626703707296001@wrigleys.postgresql.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <161063014110.12228.7559626703707296001@wrigleys.postgresql.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 01:15:41PM +0000, PG Doc comments form wrote: > The following documentation comment has been logged on the website: > > Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/13/ssh-tunnels.html > Description: > > You're gonna hate this -- a grammar nit pick. > But for the few of us who know what e.g. and i.e. mean, the wrong one is > confusing. > > e.g. = exempli gratia = for example. > i.e. = id est = that is. > > "that is" implies that there's no other option. > "for example" implies that there are other options. I wrote this text in this commit: commit 472e518a44 Author: Bruce Momjian Date: Fri Oct 2 21:39:33 2020 -0400 doc: clarify the use of ssh port forwarding Reported-by: karimelghazouly@gmail.com Discussion: https://postgr.es/m/159854511172.24991.4373145230066586863@wrigleys.postgresql.org Backpatch-through: 9.5 > So in the following text, they seem to be the wrong way round: > > "The name or IP address after this is the remote bind address you are > connecting to, i.e., localhost, which is the default. The second number, I think you are right that this should be e.g.. I used i.e. because I thought it was odd to have the "which is the default" text after the example text, since it might not make sense. I will change it to: "The name or IP address after this is the remote bind address you are connecting to, i.e., localhost (the default). > 5432, is the remote end of the tunnel, e.g., the port number your database > server is using." I think the above is correct, since "the port number your database server is using" is an example, not a rephrasing of the earlier part of the sentence. -- Bruce Momjian https://momjian.us EnterpriseDB https://enterprisedb.com The usefulness of a cup is in its emptiness, Bruce Lee