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Katz" Cc: Tom Lane , "Daniel Westermann (DWE)" , "pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org" Subject: Re: Link t the souce code Message-ID: <20210506232243.GA7460@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <13ed358b-76ae-f834-dc63-875f5142eb04@postgresql.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 2021-May-06, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > On 5/6/21 6:05 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > > Alvaro Herrera writes: > >> I agree -- if the user wanted packages, they would not be reading that > >> page of the docs. I'd just have it point to the same page that the > >> download page points to for source downloads, not a version-specific > >> one, as in the attached patch. > > > > +1. I think people reading this may have their own ideas about > > which version they want. Also, getting the link to be sane in > > the devel docs might be problematic. > > +1 on all of the above. This text seems to work fine for released versions, but not very well for development, because it says this: The PostgreSQL 14devel sources can be obtained from the download section of our website: https://www.postgresql.org/ftp/source/. You should get a file named postgresql-14devel.tar.gz or postgresql-14devel.tar.bz2. and no such thing as postgresql-14devel.tar.gz can be found anywhere as far as I can see. What we do have is postgresql-snapshot.tar.gz, but that's not located in /ftp/source/ but /ftp/snapshot/dev/. I think if we wanted to be tense about these instructions being correct for the devel version, we need more work. Options I can see: 1. add a directory for the current devel version in the FTP area. 2. use conditional XML markup that points to the snapshot dir when doing the devel build 3. add a separate paragraph that says to obtain the source from the other dir if it's the development one. I kinda prefer the last one, because then we could also suggest to use a Git repo instead of a tarball, which I suppose is the best option anyway. -- Álvaro Herrera 39°49'30"S 73°17'W