Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lwVcm-0006XM-VD for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 20:06:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lwVcj-0006pE-Nd for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 20:06:53 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lwVci-0006p5-ON for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 20:06:53 +0000 Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lwVcb-00019j-Ko for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 20:06:52 +0000 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC6D5C0098; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 16:06:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 24 Jun 2021 16:06:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:subject:to :x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm3; bh=uIIbekE8oX6EfHKy6Ncy4vPAQ2B3IIZAwhsw8BJxZ/M=; b=wuOvbOPu GzNdkF8fVgMfTV7zJa8VF/Mqw3t64cdDQr0SFxtLy9BkI1XEwoYZ2CoHSaJLUGZY +Jxwt2H/L6epKRS5bAKbj5Hwq2tPmRhdEqjgwX+VgP/x7mmg9oldPwI/ZNdMBkIF 4Wdbe78wYwmoEEcuISrRTxd1NdeKeI3SkTSVtgjK8f+s7bif+QPjHW5NulE85kUI acfmLfTz6NS6YdEa8gy4b0eo/p+NfwkDS4qsXkE+CBEz/uM6eXx7mKv43HDlWARm F8lGj7pOhFmjZ6mkwPMMhXsciv4u32xAVt/j+S9jZcAxIEF7cOdk9eMenUFVIkwp GIB+FpzuL4/bNQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrfeeghedgudeghecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd enucfjughrpeffhffvuffkgggtugfgjgesthekredttddtudenucfhrhhomheptehlvhgr rhhoucfjvghrrhgvrhgruceorghlvhhhvghrrhgvsegrlhhvhhdrnhhoqdhiphdrohhrgh eqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepgeegveevffevjeffudethfdvtdeggefhhffguefhfeej iefgvefhfeelvedtudetnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrg hilhhfrhhomheprghlvhhhvghrrhgvsegrlhhvhhdrnhhoqdhiphdrohhrgh X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 16:06:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by perhan.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CCFCB2A0BBB; Thu, 24 Jun 2021 16:06:38 -0400 (-04) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 16:06:38 -0400 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Bruce Momjian Cc: Laurenz Albe , eric.mutta@gmail.com, pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: 24.1.5.1. Multixacts And Wraparound Message-ID: <202106242006.uyjdiujqk36b@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20210624195329.GB16214@momjian.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 2021-Jun-24, Bruce Momjian wrote: > + As a safety device, an aggressive vacuum scan will > + occur for any table whose multixact-age (see + linkend="vacuum-for-multixact-wraparound"/>) is greater than + linkend="guc-autovacuum-multixact-freeze-max-age"/>. Also, if the > + storage occupied by multixacts exceeds 2GB, aggressive vacuum scans > + will occur more often for all tables, starting with those that have > + the oldest multixact-age. Both of these kinds of aggressive scans > + will occur even if autovacuum is nominally disabled. This looks good, thanks. I think "the space occupied by multixacts" is a bit ambiguous -- it is talking about pg_multixact/members only, but you could interpret that it talks about both that and pg_multixact/offsets. I'm not sure we need to be 100% precise about that, so perhaps what you have is sufficient. But if we do want to be precise, then maybe " ... if the storage occupied by multixact members (pg_multixact/members/) exceeds ..." covers it. (At least, that's how I remember this. I don't think things have changed much since 53bb309d2d5a ...) -- Álvaro Herrera Valdivia, Chile