Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1ul7rV-00BD4p-N7 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 15:21:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1ul7rU-007n24-Dh for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 15:21:28 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1ul7rU-007n1t-6N for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 15:21:28 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([68.162.161.243]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1ul7rR-001jht-0n for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 15:21:27 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 57AFLODI2637305; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 11:21:24 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: "David G. Johnston" cc: "nonint@yandex.ru" , "pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org" Subject: Re: Tutorial from Chapter 2.1 In-reply-to: References: <175481702402.800.18232366789631838341@wrigleys.postgresql.org> Comments: In-reply-to "David G. Johnston" message dated "Sun, 10 Aug 2025 07:57:27 -0700" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2637303.1754839284.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 11:21:24 -0400 Message-ID: <2637304.1754839284@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk "David G. Johnston" writes: > Well, the main issue is the people who write the documentation and code the > software only directly support installing it from source code. Third-party > packagers take over when it comes to producing binaries. You would need to > convince them to change their ways. This documentation feedback form is > unlikely to be something they see. Yeah ... it'd be nice if packagers created a postgresql-tutorial subpackage with those files, but the heavy lifting would all need to be done by the packagers, not the core project. I'm not really surprised that none of them have done so. There's not that much incremental benefit from being able to reproduce the tutorial chapter's examples locally. Possibly we should reword the tutorial intro a bit, to the effect that you can follow along with the examples if you have a source tree at hand. (Sadly, that's not going to be very many novices these days.) regards, tom lane