Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1ul8HZ-00BI0E-Ui for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 15:48:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1ul8HY-007rHh-7p for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 15:48:24 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1ul8HY-007rHZ-09 for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 15:48:24 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([68.162.161.243]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1ul8HV-001oSd-1X for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 15:48:23 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 57AFmJGQ2640300; Sun, 10 Aug 2025 11:48:19 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: "David G. Johnston" cc: "nonint@yandex.ru" , "pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org" Subject: Re: Tutorial from Chapter 2.1 In-reply-to: References: <175481702402.800.18232366789631838341@wrigleys.postgresql.org> <2637304.1754839284@sss.pgh.pa.us> Comments: In-reply-to "David G. Johnston" message dated "Sun, 10 Aug 2025 08:40:27 -0700" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-ID: <2640298.1754840899.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 11:48:19 -0400 Message-ID: <2640299.1754840899@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk "David G. Johnston" writes: > On Sunday, August 10, 2025, Tom Lane wrote: >> Possibly we should reword the tutorial intro a bit, to the effect >> that you can follow along with the examples if you have a source >> tree at hand. (Sadly, that's not going to be very many novices >> these days.) > I’d rather remove it from the docs and make a home for it in the wiki or, > probably better, have a separate git repository that they could clone. Making it buildable standalone would be a significant investment of effort I fear. Right now it's dependent on the autoconf/makefile infrastructure of the surrounding Postgres source tree. The other problem would be keeping it in sync with the tutorial docs proper. I guess we could pull those out of the main documentation altogether, and make "the Postgres tutorial" into a fully standalone project. But I'm not detecting a lot of enthusiasm for doing the work. regards, tom lane