X-Original-To: pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@postgresql.org Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01129FB20B for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:52:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 76004-07 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:52:03 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us (sss.pgh.pa.us [66.207.139.130]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EFAE9FB0D1 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:52:03 -0300 (ADT) Received: from sss2.sss.pgh.pa.us (tgl@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k722q1rK028625; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:52:01 -0400 (EDT) To: Joe Conway cc: "Hackers (PostgreSQL)" Subject: Re: Values list-of-targetlists patch for comments (was Re: [PATCHES] 8.2 features?) In-reply-to: <44CFBC78.2020508@joeconway.com> References: <44B69778.5050104@dunslane.net> <50461.84.63.113.55.1152832991.squirrel@pezone.net> <44B7ADFC.90205@dunslane.net> <44BC0432.3040509@joeconway.com> <44BC661F.80609@joeconway.com> <44BCD06C.3060409@calorieking.com> <44BCF1D4.3010807@dunslane.net> <5842.1153246741@sss.pgh.pa.us> <44BD8854.9060506@calorieking.com> <15212.1153279954@sss.pgh.pa.us> <44BDB2F5.7080003@joeconway.com> <44BEA710.6060700@joeconway.com> <23198.1153367887@sss.pgh.pa.us> <44BF0382.2010501@joeconway.com> <23454.1153370214@sss.pgh.pa.us> <44BF122F.1080200@joeconway.com> <23927.1153373971@sss.pgh.pa.us> <44C00E1E.1000405@joeconway.com> <14047.1153442773@sss.pgh.pa.us> <44C4451A.4010906@joeconway.com> <11495.1153757531@sss.pgh.pa.us> <44C4F625.2050304@joeconway.com> <12029.1153760969@sss.pgh.pa.us> <44CC0A66.6070903@joeconway.com> <16429.1154463351@sss.pgh.pa.us> <44CFBC78.2020508@joeconway.com> Comments: In-reply-to Joe Conway message dated "Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:41:28 -0700" Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:52:00 -0400 Message-ID: <28624.1154487120@sss.pgh.pa.us> From: Tom Lane X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.182 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200608/62 X-Sequence-Number: 87555 Joe Conway writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> What I'm inclined to do for 8.2 is to disallow OLD/NEW references in >> multi-element VALUES clauses; the feature is still tremendously useful >> without that. > Given the timing, this sounds like a reasonable approach. I agree that > the feature has lots of interesting uses -- I'd hate to see us lose > that. Disallowing OLD/NEW references doesn't contradict the spec in any > way AFAIK either. I don't think rules are in the spec at all ;-) ... so no, that's not a problem. My example demonstrated a pretty likely use: create rule r2 as on update to src do insert into log values(old.*, 'old'), (new.*, 'new'); but for the moment we can tell people to work around it the way they always have: create rule r2 as on update to src do insert into log select old.*, 'old' union all new.*, 'new'; or just use two separate INSERT commands in the rule. We oughta fix it later, but I don't feel ashamed to have a restriction like this in the first cut. regards, tom lane