Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sPGYl-003kby-Gv for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 07:07:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sPGYj-00EPGH-9T for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 07:07:13 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sPGYi-00EPG8-Pe for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 07:07:13 +0000 Received: from smtp.outgoing.loopia.se ([93.188.3.37]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sPGYg-000KSI-2m for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 07:07:12 +0000 Received: from s807.loopia.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C8B3029C08 for ; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 09:07:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s981.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.5]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7272E27F2C; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 09:07:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s474.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.5]) by s981.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DF322B1A3C; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 09:07:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amavis.loopia.se X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 tagged_above=-999 required=6.2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: s474.loopia.se (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=yesql.se Received: from s980.loopia.se ([172.22.191.5]) by s474.loopia.se (s474.loopia.se [172.22.190.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Q434aduSEIE2; Thu, 4 Jul 2024 09:07:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Loopia-Auth: user X-Loopia-User: daniel@yesql.se X-Loopia-Originating-IP: 89.255.232.193 Received: from smtpclient.apple (customer-89-255-232-193.stosn.net [89.255.232.193]) (Authenticated sender: daniel@yesql.se) by s980.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6D0F92201721; Thu, 04 Jul 2024 09:07:05 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yesql.se; s=loopiadkim1707475645; t=1720076825; bh=QN7RETe3NEuDrtUDXLq6RqhwNkh7NBAFBkc09xrJ6Pk=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=h+fOBGZ0E/36PEPE/E+VKEUmlnX/iH5uTDv7kB/nnFcyq0eSA2vYz8sJh8XzGu8s/ 7cEljfbqG8MDsYHjSu2bzXTjeOIzyryYE2acVOR4hzi5Udtmj+/4MrmL2hcfjnfFK8 UDH0Rdt6JD7T66l14kYNA7/VARmGD+dbd6/MGZQXaH1LaEi3AS5yV3ucb+mLQA+lmo L5+JVXdRJeCSYvYB5lAiiWD0TQ5UU76uTP6ABiJYcNPIiYX353Z2dRQCl9ph/+zw4i JPvsrgiPMpPpca2Bv9z33a/s93cQ6ol3wvpQLyKrPG+VwIiPprRFnLzMI444WHMM0u BuO4eg6hiv+mQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.600.62\)) Subject: Re: Joe Hellerstein's "Looking Back at Postgres" paper From: Daniel Gustafsson In-Reply-To: <3345678.1720071633@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 09:06:54 +0200 Cc: pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <29108CAC-2CFB-470D-A3DC-E666C12EF4E4@yesql.se> References: <3345678.1720071633@sss.pgh.pa.us> To: Tom Lane X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.600.62) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk > On 4 Jul 2024, at 07:40, Tom Lane wrote: >=20 > I happened to come across this: >=20 > https://arxiv.org/pdf/1901.01973 >=20 > I found this to be really interesting reading, so I wonder if > we shouldn't cite it in history.sgml or some such place. It's a really good read, +1 for referencing it in history.sgml. I would probably have placed it at the tail end of 2.1 to wrap up that section = or at the very end. Unrelated to that, but reading history.sgml I found this sentend at the = end of the page to be sort of misleading: "Details about what has happened in PostgreSQL since then can be = found in Appendix E." While technically true, it seems a bit overpromising in a history = section to refer to the release notes which are written in a very different way = from the prose here (and the release notes are not even in Appendix E anymore). -- Daniel Gustafsson