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* password storage docs
@ 2018-08-20 01:35  Richard Hector <[email protected]>
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From: Richard Hector @ 2018-08-20 01:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-docs

Hi,

Sending this as requested by xocolatl on #postgresql (irc).

On discovering that (md5) password hashes are stored in postgres in a
manner similar to this:

'md5' || md5('the most secret password' || 'username')

i.e. without the use of a random salt, it was suggested I should look
into the scram alternative.

I can't find information about the storage format for that at all -
other than "... and supports storing passwords on the server in a
cryptographically hashed form that is thought to be secure."

It would be nice to see more information on this.

Thanks,

Richard




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* Re: password storage docs
@ 2018-08-20 02:46  Michael Paquier <[email protected]>
  parent: Richard Hector <[email protected]>
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From: Michael Paquier @ 2018-08-20 02:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Richard Hector <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-docs

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 01:35:56PM +1200, Richard Hector wrote:
> I can't find information about the storage format for that at all -
> other than "... and supports storing passwords on the server in a
> cryptographically hashed form that is thought to be secure."
> 
> It would be nice to see more information on this.

The SCRAM verifiers stored conform to RFC 5803:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5803.
This is mentioned in the comments of auth-scram.c.  Do you think that
mentioning that in this paragraph of this doc would be useful?  We could
for example append "as defined in RFC 5803" in the last sentence.
--
Michael


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