Received: from localhost.jpl.nasa.gov (IDENT:root@hectic-1.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.68.203]) by hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA30334 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:10:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu) Received: from alumni.caltech.edu (lockhart@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.jpl.nasa.gov (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA21992; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:09:24 GMT Sender: lockhart@localhost.jpl.nasa.gov Message-ID: <372481A4.2C51F091@alumni.caltech.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:09:24 +0000 From: Thomas Lockhart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Momjian CC: The Hermit Hacker , vev@michvhf.com, pgsql-docs@postgreSQL.org Subject: Re: [DOCS] Logo issue ... References: <199904240227.WAA26894@candle.pha.pa.us> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1D16D6BCE515D4E9714706D8" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1D16D6BCE515D4E9714706D8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The problem, as I see things right now, is we are spending too much time > > going around in circles on the logo issue, and I'd like to lay things to > > rest already :) > > My vote is towards Jan's work...as far as "official logo"...there is > > nothing wrong with working on more cartoon'd versions from a humor > > perspective, but, IMHO, Jan's work displays so nicely as shown by Dmitry's > > work with it... At least a couple of people have tried to point out the criteria which we should apply to a logo selection, and imho a *single* choice can not fullfill all of them. We would like a nice, "rich" logo for the web page, cover art, etc, but that same logo, without changes, *cannot* shrink down to a suitable 16x16 pixmap button on a GUI. Scrappy's desire to somehow incorporate both concepts is *important*, and should not be ignored. We have the theme (elephant) and a good candidate for a rich logo, but we shouldn't discourage the discussion of simpler logos for other uses. The last time we were discussing logos and branding someone had posted a very good, short, treatise on the subject which pointed out that once you have chosen a "base" logo then you can derive logos and other art from that without having to propagate the exact image or all details. For example, istm that if we used Jan's logo as the cover art for the web page, then our "cartoon" logo might consist of line art which traces the outline of the elephant's head profile. Or has a diamond with a single line through it which evokes our elephant's head and nose. The important thing is that the content of the image is clearly derived from the same theme. Cheesy example included... - Tom -- Thomas Lockhart lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu South Pasadena, California --------------1D16D6BCE515D4E9714706D8 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="PGlogo.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="PGlogo.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wBDAAMCAgMCAgMDAwMEAwMEBQgFBQQEBQoHBwYIDAoM DAsKCwsNDhIQDQ4RDgsLEBYQERMUFRUVDA8XGBYUGBIUFRT/2wBDAQMEBAUEBQkFBQkUDQsN FBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBQUFBT/wAAR CACGAGwDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAAAAAAAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA AgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkK FhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWG h4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl 5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/8QAHwEAAwEBAQEBAQEBAQAAAAAAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtREA AgECBAQDBAcFBAQAAQJ3AAECAxEEBSExBhJBUQdhcRMiMoEIFEKRobHBCSMzUvAVYnLRChYk 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