From lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu Mon Jun 7 14:35:31 1999 Received: from localhost (IDENT:root@hectic-2.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.68.204]) by hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA81843 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:35:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu) Received: from alumni.caltech.edu (lockhart@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA02881; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:37:36 GMT Sender: lockhart@hub.org Message-ID: <375BD930.ACB28929@alumni.caltech.edu> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 14:37:36 +0000 From: Thomas Lockhart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Petter Reinholdtsen CC: Postgres Documentation List Subject: Re: PostgreSQL User's Guide as A4 Postscript? References: <199906071106.NAA30540@lee.Cc.Uit.No> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (taken on-list) > Is there an A4 Postscript version of the PostgreSQL > User's Guide for printing? No, I have not generated one. To make hardcopy, I generate an RTF file, then import into ApplixWare, insert graphics, clean up page breaks, and insert page numbers into the table of contents. This last step must be done manually (e.g. typing *all* of the page numbers in) due to an apparent mishandling of the RTF by Applix. If I can get that fixed some day then it should be fairly easy to generate an A4 version. If someone wanted to take on A4 hardcopy as a project, I would be happy to support them. - Thomas -- Thomas Lockhart lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu South Pasadena, California From pere@hungry.com Mon Jun 7 14:52:35 1999 Received: from kvikk.uit.no (kvikk.Uit.No [129.242.4.32]) by hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA85499 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:52:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from pere@lee.Cc.Uit.No) Received: from joseph.cc.uit.no (joseph.Cc.Uit.No [129.242.6.242]) by kvikk.uit.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03396; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:52:23 +0200 (METDST) Received: from lee.Cc.Uit.No (pere@lee.Cc.Uit.No [129.242.6.46]) by joseph.cc.uit.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25522; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:52:22 +0200 (METDST) Received: (from pere@localhost) by lee.Cc.Uit.No (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA30722; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:52:22 +0200 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:52:22 +0200 Message-Id: <199906071452.QAA30722@lee.Cc.Uit.No> To: Thomas Lockhart CC: Postgres Documentation List Subject: Re: PostgreSQL User's Guide as A4 Postscript? From: Petter Reinholdtsen Reply-to: Petter Reinholdtsen > No, I have not generated one. To make hardcopy, I generate an RTF > file, then import into ApplixWare, insert graphics, clean up page > breaks, and insert page numbers into the table of contents. This > last step must be done manually (e.g. typing *all* of the page > numbers in) due to an apparent mishandling of the RTF by Applix. If > I can get that fixed some day then it should be fairly easy to > generate an A4 version. Sounds like a ugly way to do it. What is the original document format? > If someone wanted to take on A4 hardcopy as a project, I would be > happy to support them. Maybe I will, depending on the document format. :-) -- ##> Petter Reinholdtsen <## | pere@td.org.uit.no O- http://www.hungry.com/~pere/ | Go Mozilla, go! Go! From lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu Mon Jun 7 15:18:22 1999 Received: from localhost (IDENT:root@hectic-2.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.68.204]) by hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA37755 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:18:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu) Received: from alumni.caltech.edu (lockhart@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA03059; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:20:33 GMT Sender: lockhart@hub.org Message-ID: <375BE341.C9841F1C@alumni.caltech.edu> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 15:20:33 +0000 From: Thomas Lockhart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Petter Reinholdtsen CC: Postgres Documentation List Subject: Re: PostgreSQL User's Guide as A4 Postscript? References: <199906071452.QAA30722@lee.Cc.Uit.No> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > No, I have not generated one. To make hardcopy, I generate an RTF > > file, then import into ApplixWare, insert graphics, clean up page > > breaks, and insert page numbers into the table of contents. This > > last step must be done manually (e.g. typing *all* of the page > > numbers in) due to an apparent mishandling of the RTF by Applix. If > > I can get that fixed some day then it should be fairly easy to > > generate an A4 version. > Sounds like a ugly way to do it. What is the original document > format? The original document format is DocBook sgml. It is processed by jade into RTF, which I then use to clean up page breaks etc, and finally save a Postscript file. The process is actually quite reasonable, since imho no completely automated scheme will do the best job of setting page breaks. The only ugliness is the problem with getting a proper ToC from the imported RTF. Applix does not propagate the styles correctly to the headers and body of the text, making all text "Header1" in style and therefore unable to pick out the actual headers to make a new ToC. I recall that importing into M$Word gets the styles marked, but there were other problems which seemed to even things out. > > If someone wanted to take on A4 hardcopy as a project, I would be > > happy to support them. > Maybe I will, depending on the document format. :-) If I can get the ToC problem solved, then generating A4 is almost trivial. To duplicate my doc generation environment would require a jade/docbook installation, and the purchase of ApplixWare (relatively inexpensive; SuSE linux comes with it). However feel free to explore other possibilities for RTF->hardcopy with formatting adjustments. - Thomas -- Thomas Lockhart lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu South Pasadena, California From lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu Mon Jun 7 15:50:55 1999 Received: from localhost (IDENT:root@hectic-2.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.68.204]) by hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA48269 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:50:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu) Received: from alumni.caltech.edu (lockhart@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA03206; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:53:05 GMT Sender: lockhart@hub.org Message-ID: <375BEAE1.13E8C63B@alumni.caltech.edu> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 15:53:05 +0000 From: Thomas Lockhart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Petter Reinholdtsen CC: Postgres Documentation List Subject: Re: PostgreSQL User's Guide as A4 Postscript? References: <199906071531.RAA30756@lee.Cc.Uit.No> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > What about DocBook->LaTeX->PS? There is a DocBook->TeX->PS path available (nothing for LaTeX however, for reasons which are clear to the implementers). When I started, it did not offer an acceptable solution, since it had problems handling tables. There were other non-fatal problems too in sizing TeX to be able to handle large documents. Some of the worst tabular problems have been repaired, or are at least not as bad as before, but my belief is that it does not quite match the RTF->(fixup)->PS route. - Thomas -- Thomas Lockhart lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu South Pasadena, California