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* New man pages
@ 1999-08-05 14:53 Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
1999-08-06 15:02 ` Re: [DOCS] New man pages Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>
1999-08-09 13:26 ` Re: [HACKERS] New man pages José Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>
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From: Thomas Lockhart @ 1999-08-05 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgresql.org>; Postgres Documentation List <docs@postgresql.org>
I've posted a tarball of new man pages at
ftp://postgresql.org/pub/doc/man.tar.gz
I *think* these are ready for prime time, or close to it. They are
generated completely automatically from the sgml sources, using some
patched perl utilities. I'll try to post the complete set of docs
tools on the ftp site sometime soon.
Note that there are a few more man pages than were available in the
original versions, and that *all* information in the original man
pages appears in the new ones (or somewhere in the other docs).
I haven't yet updated the cvs tree to contain these new man pages.
Please look through the tarball and report any problems you see, if
you have any interest in the man page issue. Also, please report if
they look OK, so I know *someone* looked at them ;)
- Thomas
--
Thomas Lockhart lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu
South Pasadena, California
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* Re: [DOCS] New man pages
1999-08-05 14:53 New man pages Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
@ 1999-08-06 15:02 ` Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>
1999-08-06 15:28 ` Re: [DOCS] New man pages Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 1999-08-06 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>; +Cc: Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgreSQL.org>; Postgres Documentation List <docs@postgreSQL.org>
> I've posted a tarball of new man pages at
>
> ftp://postgresql.org/pub/doc/man.tar.gz
>
> I *think* these are ready for prime time, or close to it. They are
> generated completely automatically from the sgml sources, using some
> patched perl utilities. I'll try to post the complete set of docs
> tools on the ftp site sometime soon.
>
> Note that there are a few more man pages than were available in the
> original versions, and that *all* information in the original man
> pages appears in the new ones (or somewhere in the other docs).
>
> I haven't yet updated the cvs tree to contain these new man pages.
> Please look through the tarball and report any problems you see, if
> you have any interest in the man page issue. Also, please report if
> they look OK, so I know *someone* looked at them ;)
I looked at the new pages, and they looked very good, much better than I
thought they would. The only problem was the display of the command
syntax was wrapped rather than being one operator per line:
select [distinct [on attr_name]]
expression1 [as attr_name-1]
{, expression-1 [as attr_name-i]}
[into [temp] [table] classname]
[from from-list]
[where where-clause]
[group by attr_name1 {, attr_name-i....}]
[having having-clause]
became:
select [distinct [on attr_name]] expression1 [as attr_name-1]
{, expression-1 [as attr_name-i]} [into [temp] [table] classname]
[from from-list] [where where-clause] [group by attr_name1
{, attr_name-i....}] [having having-clause]
Which is almost unreadable.
--
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maillist@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000
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* Re: [DOCS] New man pages
1999-08-05 14:53 New man pages Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
1999-08-06 15:02 ` Re: [DOCS] New man pages Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>
@ 1999-08-06 15:28 ` Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
1999-08-06 15:52 ` Re: [DOCS] New man pages Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Lockhart @ 1999-08-06 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>; +Cc: Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgreSQL.org>; Postgres Documentation List <docs@postgreSQL.org>
> I looked at the new pages, and they looked very good, much better than I
> thought they would.
:)
> The only problem was the display of the command
> syntax was wrapped rather than being one operator per line:
> Which is almost unreadable.
Fixed it.
- Thomas
--
Thomas Lockhart lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu
South Pasadena, California
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* Re: [DOCS] New man pages
1999-08-05 14:53 New man pages Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
1999-08-06 15:02 ` Re: [DOCS] New man pages Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>
1999-08-06 15:28 ` Re: [DOCS] New man pages Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
@ 1999-08-06 15:52 ` Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 1999-08-06 15:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>; +Cc: Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgreSQL.org>; Postgres Documentation List <docs@postgreSQL.org>
> > I looked at the new pages, and they looked very good, much better than I
> > thought they would.
>
> :)
Yes, I was prepared to really lose some of the nice formatting we had,
but we really didn't lose anything.
>
> > The only problem was the display of the command
> > syntax was wrapped rather than being one operator per line:
> > Which is almost unreadable.
>
> Fixed it.
Thanks.
--
Bruce Momjian | http://www.op.net/~candle
maillist@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000
+ If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue
+ Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
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* Re: [HACKERS] New man pages
1999-08-05 14:53 New man pages Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
@ 1999-08-09 13:26 ` José Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>
1999-08-09 14:11 ` Re: [HACKERS] New man pages Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: José Soares @ 1999-08-09 13:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>; +Cc: Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgresql.org>
Hi Thomas,
I'm looking at man pages, and I find it very good. Now we have only one
documentation's version. Nice job.
There's only a little thing that I would like to recall your attention;
I see whenever the name Postgres instead of
PostgreSQL. Is there a reason to continue to call it Postgres in the
docs ?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
UPDATE(l) UPDATE(l)
NAME
UPDATE - Replaces values of columns in a table
SYNOPSIS
UPDATE table SET R">colle> = expression [, ...] [ FROM
^^^^^^^
fromlist ] [ WHERE condition ]
INPUTS
table The name of an existing table.
column The name of a column in table.
expression
A valid expression or value to assign to column.
fromlist
A Postgres non-standard extension to allow columns
^^^^^^^
from other tables to appear in the WHERE condition.
José
Thomas Lockhart ha scritto:
> I've posted a tarball of new man pages at
>
> ftp://postgresql.org/pub/doc/man.tar.gz
>
> I *think* these are ready for prime time, or close to it. They are
> generated completely automatically from the sgml sources, using some
> patched perl utilities. I'll try to post the complete set of docs
> tools on the ftp site sometime soon.
>
> Note that there are a few more man pages than were available in the
> original versions, and that *all* information in the original man
> pages appears in the new ones (or somewhere in the other docs).
>
> I haven't yet updated the cvs tree to contain these new man pages.
> Please look through the tarball and report any problems you see, if
> you have any interest in the man page issue. Also, please report if
> they look OK, so I know *someone* looked at them ;)
>
> - Thomas
>
> --
> Thomas Lockhart lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu
> South Pasadena, California
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* Re: [HACKERS] New man pages
1999-08-05 14:53 New man pages Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
1999-08-09 13:26 ` Re: [HACKERS] New man pages José Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>
@ 1999-08-09 14:11 ` Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
1999-08-09 14:45 ` Re: [HACKERS] New man pages Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Lockhart @ 1999-08-09 14:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: José Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>; +Cc: Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgresql.org>
> There's only a little thing that I would like to recall your attention;
> I see whenever the name Postgres instead of
> PostgreSQL. Is there a reason to continue to call it Postgres in the
> docs ?
I have chosen to use "Postgres" within the docs, as a shorter (and
pronouncable ;) form of our product. "PostgreSQL" appears in all
titles and introductory material. I have considered the "SQL" part of
the "PostgreSQL" as sort of a version or branch, like "OpenIngres" or
"Windows 2000", and a bit cumbersome in the body of the docs.
But that was a choice which can always be reconsidered, we're just a
"sed" away from a different name...
- Thomas
--
Thomas Lockhart lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu
South Pasadena, California
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* Re: [HACKERS] New man pages
1999-08-05 14:53 New man pages Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
1999-08-09 13:26 ` Re: [HACKERS] New man pages José Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>
1999-08-09 14:11 ` Re: [HACKERS] New man pages Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
@ 1999-08-09 14:45 ` Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>
1999-08-09 15:48 ` Re: [HACKERS] New man pages Thomas Good <tomg@nrnet.org>
1999-08-16 02:55 ` Re: [HACKERS] New man pages The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Momjian @ 1999-08-09 14:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>; +Cc: [Jos_] Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>; Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgreSQL.org>
> > There's only a little thing that I would like to recall your attention;
> > I see whenever the name Postgres instead of
> > PostgreSQL. Is there a reason to continue to call it Postgres in the
> > docs ?
>
> I have chosen to use "Postgres" within the docs, as a shorter (and
> pronouncable ;) form of our product. "PostgreSQL" appears in all
> titles and introductory material. I have considered the "SQL" part of
> the "PostgreSQL" as sort of a version or branch, like "OpenIngres" or
> "Windows 2000", and a bit cumbersome in the body of the docs.
>
> But that was a choice which can always be reconsidered, we're just a
> "sed" away from a different name...
I vote for PostgreSQL.
--
Bruce Momjian | http://www.op.net/~candle
maillist@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000
+ If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue
+ Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
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* Re: [HACKERS] New man pages
1999-08-05 14:53 New man pages Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
1999-08-09 13:26 ` Re: [HACKERS] New man pages José Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>
1999-08-09 14:11 ` Re: [HACKERS] New man pages Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
1999-08-09 14:45 ` Re: [HACKERS] New man pages Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>
@ 1999-08-09 15:48 ` Thomas Good <tomg@nrnet.org>
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Good @ 1999-08-09 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>; +Cc: Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>; [Jos_] Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>; Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgresql.org>
On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > There's only a little thing that I would like to recall your attention;
> > > I see whenever the name Postgres instead of
> > > PostgreSQL. Is there a reason to continue to call it Postgres in the
> > > docs ?
> >
> > I have chosen to use "Postgres" within the docs, as a shorter (and
> > pronouncable ;) form of our product. "PostgreSQL" appears in all
> > titles and introductory material. I have considered the "SQL" part of
> > the "PostgreSQL" as sort of a version or branch, like "OpenIngres" or
> > "Windows 2000", and a bit cumbersome in the body of the docs.
> >
> > But that was a choice which can always be reconsidered, we're just a
> > "sed" away from a different name...
>
> I vote for PostgreSQL.
I'm just an end user who loves the product...with an opinion. ;-)
Although I never used postgres (i.e., prior to the suffix being appended)
I always use `postgres' in conversation both as it is easily pronounced
and as there is a rather noteable history/lineage. When communicating
with other postgres fans I say pee-gee...
When I refer specfically to the newer incarnation I say Postgres SQL
(post-gress see-qwell) rather than postgreS-Q-L...
I don't really mind if the man pages get edited as if I ever choose to
read them to my 4 year old son I will swap in the generic name, on the
fly. But we are not up to that point yet - my son is still learning
about grep. ;-)
I fully appreciate what the name is designed to convey but it does not
roll off the tongue...so I kinda like Thomas' decision to stick with
the more generic term - and the more poetic.
Cheers,
Tom
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* Re: [HACKERS] New man pages
1999-08-05 14:53 New man pages Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
1999-08-09 13:26 ` Re: [HACKERS] New man pages José Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>
1999-08-09 14:11 ` Re: [HACKERS] New man pages Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>
1999-08-09 14:45 ` Re: [HACKERS] New man pages Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>
@ 1999-08-16 02:55 ` The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: The Hermit Hacker @ 1999-08-16 02:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>; +Cc: Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu>; [Jos_] Soares <jose@sferacarta.com>; Postgres Hackers List <hackers@postgreSQL.org>
On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > There's only a little thing that I would like to recall your attention;
> > > I see whenever the name Postgres instead of
> > > PostgreSQL. Is there a reason to continue to call it Postgres in the
> > > docs ?
> >
> > I have chosen to use "Postgres" within the docs, as a shorter (and
> > pronouncable ;) form of our product. "PostgreSQL" appears in all
> > titles and introductory material. I have considered the "SQL" part of
> > the "PostgreSQL" as sort of a version or branch, like "OpenIngres" or
> > "Windows 2000", and a bit cumbersome in the body of the docs.
> >
> > But that was a choice which can always be reconsidered, we're just a
> > "sed" away from a different name...
>
> I vote for PostgreSQL.
I second it...whenever ppl mention "postgres", i think back to our
ancestor and figure they are referring to that :(
Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
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