From elein@nextbus.com Sat Jan 12 01:22:37 2002 Received: from office.nextbus.com (ns.nextbus.com [64.164.28.194]) by postgresql.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g0C1MbB68183 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:22:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from elein@nextbus.com) Received: from garland.corp.nextbus.com (garland.corp.nextbus.com [192.168.1.112]) by office.nextbus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164B74F87A; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:22:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from nextbus.com (IDENT:elein@derby [127.0.0.1]) by garland.corp.nextbus.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA18092; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:22:41 -0800 Message-ID: <3C3F8FE0.912D0294@nextbus.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:22:40 -0800 From: Elein X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pgsql-docs@postgresql.org Cc: elein@nextbus.com Subject: interactive docs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------78779AEF60243B0408998508" X-Archive-Number: 200201/16 X-Sequence-Number: 1215 --------------78779AEF60243B0408998508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As a wiki fan, I'm sorry to say I hate the interactive pages. They are yet another forum for people who should be asking questions in the mailing lists. They are very distracting. If there were a genuine doc note in that mess, I would never see it. If you were to create a question/answer wiki it would probably help a lot of people and ideally people would only really put doc notes and examples on the interactive doc pages. elein -- Elein elein@nextbus.com ex-ingres, ex-illustra, ex-informix --------------78779AEF60243B0408998508 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  
As a wiki fan, I'm sorry to say I hate the interactive pages.
They are yet another forum for people who should be asking
questions in the mailing lists.  They are very distracting.
If there were a genuine doc note in that mess, I would never
see it.

If you were to create a question/answer wiki it would probably
help a lot of people and ideally people would only really put doc
notes and examples on the interactive doc pages.

elein 

-- 
Elein
elein@nextbus.com
ex-ingres, ex-illustra, ex-informix
  --------------78779AEF60243B0408998508-- From vev@michvhf.com Mon Jan 14 20:04:32 2002 Received: from paprika.michvhf.com (adsl-67-36-71-182.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net [67.36.71.182]) by postgresql.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with SMTP id g0EK4WV72792 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:04:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 32847 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Jan 2002 20:04:35 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:04:35 -0500 (EST) From: Vince Vielhaber To: Elein cc: pgsql-docs@postgresql.org Subject: Re: interactive docs In-Reply-To: <3C3F8FE0.912D0294@nextbus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200201/17 X-Sequence-Number: 1216 On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Elein wrote: > > As a wiki fan, I'm sorry to say I hate the interactive pages. > They are yet another forum for people who should be asking > questions in the mailing lists. They are very distracting. > If there were a genuine doc note in that mess, I would never > see it. The only reason it's not cleaned out is because when the release finally occurs, the docnotes will be zeroed out since the important stuff will already be in the docs. BTW, there are other forms of documentation than the interactive. Feel free to explore. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ========================================================================== From rmello@cc.usu.edu Tue Jan 15 06:19:55 2002 Received: from brasileiro.net (slxwy.dorms.usu.edu [129.123.236.160]) by postgresql.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g0F6JpV63165 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 01:19:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from roberto@brasileiro.net) Received: from roberto by brasileiro.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16QMwe-00077U-00; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:19:40 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:19:40 -0700 From: Roberto Mello To: Elein Cc: pgsql-docs@postgresql.org Subject: Re: interactive docs Message-ID: <20020115061940.GA27358@cc.usu.edu> References: <3C3F8FE0.912D0294@nextbus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C3F8FE0.912D0294@nextbus.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-Archive-Number: 200201/18 X-Sequence-Number: 1217 On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 05:22:40PM -0800, Elein wrote: > > As a wiki fan, I'm sorry to say I hate the interactive pages. > They are yet another forum for people who should be asking > questions in the mailing lists. They are very distracting. > If there were a genuine doc note in that mess, I would never > see it. Are you volunteering to moderate doc notes? That would mean you'd have to scan them once in a while and remove questions, directing questioners to the lists. > If you were to create a question/answer wiki it would probably > help a lot of people and ideally people would only really put doc > notes and examples on the interactive doc pages. That's what mailing lists are for. Wikis have good uses, but so do mailing lists. -Roberto -- +----| http://fslc.usu.edu/ USU Free Software & GNU/Linux Club |------+ Roberto Mello - Computer Science, USU - http://www.brasileiro.net/ http://www.sdl.usu.edu/ - Space Dynamics Lab, Developer You just watch yourself. I have the death sentence in twelve systems. From elein@nextbus.com Tue Jan 15 18:56:30 2002 Received: from office.nextbus.com (ns.nextbus.com [64.164.28.194]) by postgresql.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g0FIuUV16365 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:56:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from elein@nextbus.com) Received: from garland.corp.nextbus.com (garland.corp.nextbus.com [192.168.1.112]) by office.nextbus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACA54F87A; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from nextbus.com (IDENT:elein@derby [127.0.0.1]) by garland.corp.nextbus.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA30963; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:56:30 -0800 Message-ID: <3C447B5E.2060903@nextbus.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:56:30 -0800 From: Elein Reply-To: elein@nextbus.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.6) Gecko/20011120 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roberto Mello Cc: pgsql-docs@postgresql.org Subject: Re: interactive docs References: <3C3F8FE0.912D0294@nextbus.com> <20020115061940.GA27358@cc.usu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200201/20 X-Sequence-Number: 1219 Roberto Mello wrote: > On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 05:22:40PM -0800, Elein wrote: > >>As a wiki fan, I'm sorry to say I hate the interactive pages. >>They are yet another forum for people who should be asking >>questions in the mailing lists. They are very distracting. >>If there were a genuine doc note in that mess, I would never >>see it. >> > > Are you volunteering to moderate doc notes? That would mean you'd have to > scan them once in a while and remove questions, directing questioners to > the lists. > > >>If you were to create a question/answer wiki it would probably >>help a lot of people and ideally people would only really put doc >>notes and examples on the interactive doc pages. >> > > That's what mailing lists are for. Wikis have good uses, but so do mailing > lists. > > -Roberto > > If I were not the only moderator, I certainly could help. Tell me how to do it and I'll try to be nice :-) and be as attentive as my work allows. While you all are listening, I also have an organization suggestion. List the functions that operate on a data type with the data type. Just a returns,function(args) list would probably do. I rarely look up a data type without jumping over to functions. A list of the functions gives people a better idea of the uses and limitations of a given datatype. (I understand this suggestion is probably too late to be useful to 7.2 docs) cheers, elein -- -------------------------------------------------------- elein@nextbus.com (510)420-3120 www.nextbus.com spinning to infinity, hallelujah --------------------------------------------------------