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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] Commercial: New Book!! PostgreSQL book is
@ 2002-01-16 20:57  Doug Royer <Doug@royer.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread

From: Doug Royer @ 2002-01-16 20:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ; +Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org, pgsql-announce <pgsql-announce@postgresql.org>; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org

Jan Wieck wrote:
> 
> Dear PostgreSQL community,
> 
>     Most  of  the  longer  standing  members  of  the  PostgreSQL
>     developers or users communities know very  well  what  to  do
>     with  information provided by Al Dev (aka Alavoor Vasudevan).
> ....


Is all I did was visit his web site, and got a bill from
"billpoint@billpoint.com" for $25.98. I DID NOT order his book:

>  Subject: Billpoint Invoice for Item # , 1 , for $25.98
>     Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:02:14 -0800 (PST)
>     From: Billpoint System Notification <billpoint@billpoint.com>
>       To: Doug@royer.com
>
>  ...
>
>  This is a Billpoint Invoice from alavoor@yahoo.com requesting
>  payment of $25.98 for "1" . To pay for this item, click on the
>  link below, or copy and paste it into your browser. (If the
>  link appears on multiple lines, you may need to copy each line
>  separately.) 
>
>  ...
>
>    Invoice Details 
>    --------------- 
>  ...
>    Seller:              alavoor@yahoo.com 
>    Seller email:        alavoor@yahoo.com
>    Seller Message:      A Complete Guide to PostgreSQL.
>  ...



When I called the WHOIS database phone number for billpoint,
the answering maching answered BILL - POINT, then I hit '0'
and E-BAY answered.

Attachments:

Doug.vcf (text/x-vcard, 390B) download begin:vcard n:Royer;Doug tel;pager:pager@royer.com tel;cell:208-520-4044 tel;fax:866-594-8574 tel;work:866-594-8574 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://Royer.com/People/Doug org:INET-Consulting LLC <http://INET-Consulting.com adr:;;1795 W. Broadway #266;Idaho Falls;ID;83402; version:2.1 email;internet:Doug@Royer.com title:Chief Executive Manager x-mozilla-cpt:;-10400 fn:Doug Royer end:vcard
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* Re: [HACKERS] [ANNOUNCE] Commercial: New Book!! PostgreSQL book is
@ 2002-01-17 02:34  Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org>
  parent: Doug Royer <Doug@royer.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread

From: Justin Clift @ 2002-01-17 02:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Doug Royer <Doug@royer.com>; +Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org, pgsql-announce <pgsql-announce@postgresql.org>; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org

Hi Doug,

I just had a similar experience.  I emailed him to request a copy of his
book for review, and bingo, I get an invoice in the email to cough up
cash from Billpoint as well.

This is ridiculous, and is giving us a bad rep.

I'll pursue this further.

BTW, has anyone else suffered this probably-illegal experience with Al
Dev?

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift


Doug Royer wrote:
> 
> Jan Wieck wrote:
> >
> > Dear PostgreSQL community,
> >
> >     Most  of  the  longer  standing  members  of  the  PostgreSQL
> >     developers or users communities know very  well  what  to  do
> >     with  information provided by Al Dev (aka Alavoor Vasudevan).
> > ....
> 
> Is all I did was visit his web site, and got a bill from
> "billpoint@billpoint.com" for $25.98. I DID NOT order his book:
> 
> >  Subject: Billpoint Invoice for Item # , 1 , for $25.98
> >     Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:02:14 -0800 (PST)
> >     From: Billpoint System Notification <billpoint@billpoint.com>
> >       To: Doug@royer.com
> >
> >  ...
> >
> >  This is a Billpoint Invoice from alavoor@yahoo.com requesting
> >  payment of $25.98 for "1" . To pay for this item, click on the
> >  link below, or copy and paste it into your browser. (If the
> >  link appears on multiple lines, you may need to copy each line
> >  separately.)
> >
> >  ...
> >
> >    Invoice Details
> >    ---------------
> >  ...
> >    Seller:              alavoor@yahoo.com
> >    Seller email:        alavoor@yahoo.com
> >    Seller Message:      A Complete Guide to PostgreSQL.
> >  ...
> 
> When I called the WHOIS database phone number for billpoint,
> the answering maching answered BILL - POINT, then I hit '0'
> and E-BAY answered.
> 
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                   Name: Doug.vcf
>    Doug.vcf       Type: VCard (text/x-vcard)
>               Encoding: 7bit
>            Description: Card for Doug Royer
> 
>    Part 1.3    Type: Plain Text (text/plain)
>            Encoding: binary

-- 
"My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
first group; there was less competition there."
   - Indira Gandhi



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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] Commercial: New Book!! PostgreSQL book is
@ 2002-01-18 00:05  Doug Royer <Doug@royer.com>
  parent: Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread

From: Doug Royer @ 2002-01-18 00:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org>; +Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org

Justin Clift wrote:
> 
> Hi Doug,
> 
> I just had a similar experience.  I emailed him to request a copy of his
> book for review, and bingo, I get an invoice in the email to cough up
> cash from Billpoint as well.
> 
> This is ridiculous, and is giving us a bad rep.
> 
> I'll pursue this further.
> 
> BTW, has anyone else suffered this probably-illegal experience with Al
> Dev?

      Billpoint, Inc.
      2145 Hamilton Avenue
      San Jose, CA 95125
      (408) 626 4910
      (FAX) (408) 626 4901

I would recommend that everyone that has problems call to complain.
Like I said in the previous email, it seems to also be E-BAY.
They DO NOT want a bad reputation.

Attachments:

Doug.vcf (text/x-vcard, 390B) download begin:vcard n:Royer;Doug tel;pager:pager@royer.com tel;cell:208-520-4044 tel;fax:866-594-8574 tel;work:866-594-8574 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://Royer.com/People/Doug org:INET-Consulting LLC <http://INET-Consulting.com adr:;;1795 W. Broadway #266;Idaho Falls;ID;83402; version:2.1 email;internet:Doug@Royer.com title:Chief Executive Manager x-mozilla-cpt:;-10400 fn:Doug Royer end:vcard
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