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Default Roles To: Bruce Momjian Cc: Magnus Hagander , R Ransbottom , Ian Barwick , Stephen Frost , Laurenz Albe , Pg Docs References: <8c2f4f1b90c993c8c6338b978a78a9ebbcd1c934.camel@cybertec.at> <20200114181331.GB10430@momjian.us> <20200114194502.GX3195@tamriel.snowman.net> <20200119035648.3k4d3erobborxwv3@rat.local> <957c35e3-8023-ebe6-3b51-3a620b66ae82@2ndquadrant.com> <20200124001208.6dessehrm7lgeqwz@rat.local> <20200203204244.GA15678@momjian.us> <3b1f6cb3-4a6c-fff7-59ae-b8ce0a9866d8@postgresql.org> <5982a365-a38a-f81a-003c-f72cb4d7f269@postgresql.org> <20200206051131.GA20009@momjian.us> From: "Jonathan S. 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Can we revert this and return to it when we are= > not rushed? Alternatively, can someone who controls all the moving > parts, like redirects and Stephen's patch additions take ownership of > this issue, with authority to revert the patch if things are too close?= Magnus and I briefly discussed what it would take, but the probability of having the redirects ready on pgweb before the release is slim-to-none, as we'd like to thoroughly test. We can start experimenting with it now, and commit a fix after the releas= e. I don't have the power to revert changes directly to the documentation in core, so I cannot take ownership of that part. However, I am happy to own the completion of the redirect feature. Thanks, Jonathan --hkwuzG0dJJcWyZKNrv4XGORDG7tpomCk8-- --mhjvSQ8uFhyevRZfAYUOv0w0NVrrNMwjp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE+oS2la8r95ogZD/x8QSccp8cZScFAl48N80ACgkQ8QSccp8c ZScoJA/+JZE3MU8wJp5lB4/0MpOw5/3iPdjLmclnFS2GuHQYCFFGcr66A5Awpsxe jvrwno4VBj3Vr7YPvyScR7gNcW4a+SZHy2n5UUfdfQJHMtl5D0OpImhSYSazI2bC JUAufERDeCjIodYgsqO+iz6wMS9uoRIN9d12+iCLc2k+Mvgz4ZVJ2LSba5BPNBvK L7bgXjtC2Kz+O7LOIuB3bbFVLonIkETh63Vr/3+V37gSLK9tTKKA/NLoBq4+80gu SR3bUjz3NVj8/hkuXj22MNAOuLi5K0d/KfXQs8X6ybOQ96t+eGzJrbqaO68FQz2X pOGJEiESVWNyu6DPdHfPZ28Hz/xNa540I64GLAplFQsVImCDsf0fa57Fm70guX7j aAWuJ8fSGRYw9sVFM9v/BrTt52YjEzuDOspN/f+EFwx5ytovDvALMIvTVIMk8E/k R+y+qEhYd/jzEyJwED2BtxtFf9fpH+Knkrbnk3XkmQd1BiK8blbkU9svYfvjWoqb yCbPLPraUMEyCpulTIHH+HVfqkSA6zN3br0u/hdz8krAX4hfzyH5zsKUO60xroDy E9i8WtKJJ+FRZlhUE0nOiAgPkVrHEDeYNuVOIoR9q42Jom7EveAMJEgggevQejWT E/5a5JOUxPv46SJI1O/0wrn/AsjJWb+mO+WVUzE2lZ+KIe+xNSk= =MQXw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mhjvSQ8uFhyevRZfAYUOv0w0NVrrNMwjp--