X-Original-To: pgsql-performance-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C53553359 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:30:17 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 95631-02 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 22:30:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.tecarta.com (66.238.115.135.ptr.us.xo.net [66.238.115.135]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844B352A62 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 19:30:12 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail pickup service by mail.tecarta.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:33:23 -0700 Received: from mail.tecarta.com ([192.168.160.2]) by mail.tecarta.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Fri, 6 May 2005 15:33:18 -0700 Received: from barracuda.tecarta.com ([192.168.160.200]) by mail.tecarta.com (SAVSMTP 3.1.0.29) with SMTP id M2005050615331729281 for ; Fri, 06 May 2005 15:33:17 -0700 X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1115418608-26854-0-0 X-Barracuda-URL: http://192.168.160.200:8000/cgi-bin/mark.cgi Received: from mail1 (mail1.hq.corp [192.168.160.5]) by barracuda.tecarta.com (Spam Firewall) with SMTP id 5BD5B2014263 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.13] ([63.206.203.145]) by mail.tecarta.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 6 May 2005 15:33:15 -0700 Message-ID: <427BEFC8.5040208@sfnet.cc> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:29:28 -0700 From: Steve Poe User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041228) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mischa Sandberg Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [PERFORM] Whence the Opterons? Subject: Re: Whence the Opterons? References: <14695.1115393034@sss.pgh.pa.us> <6CD32D5F-B466-4E6D-9E73-CFB8957B396F@torgo.978.org> <15121.1115395067@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1115415551.427be3ffe44c8@webmail.telus.net> In-Reply-To: <1115415551.427be3ffe44c8@webmail.telus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2005 22:33:15.0813 (UTC) FILETIME=[983F1550:01C5528B] X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at tecarta.com X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=4.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=7.0 tests=BAYES_50 X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.02, rules version 3.0.813 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.00 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.5454] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.172 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200505/67 X-Sequence-Number: 12231 >IBM, Sun and HP have their fairly pricey Opteron systems. >The IT people are not swell about unsupported purchases off ebay. Mischa, I certainly understand your concern, but the price and support sometimes go hand-in-hand. You may have to pick your batttles if your want more bang for the buck or more support. I might be wrong on this, but not everything you buy on E-Bay is unsupported. We purchase a dual Operton from Sun off their E-Bay store for about $3K less than the "buy it now" price. From an IT perspective, support is not as critical if I can do it myself. If it is for business 24/7 operations, then the company should be able to put some money behind what they want to put their business on. Your mileage may vary. Steve