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* Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source @ 2022-03-13 16:05 Daniel Westermann (DWE) <[email protected]> 2022-03-14 09:08 ` Re: Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Daniel Westermann (DWE) @ 2022-03-13 16:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Hi, if you follow that example step by step, the mkdir command will fail, obviously: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/install-short.html Is it worth fixing that with "mkdir -p ..."? Regards Daniel ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source 2022-03-13 16:05 Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source Daniel Westermann (DWE) <[email protected]> @ 2022-03-14 09:08 ` Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> 2022-03-14 14:01 ` Re: Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source Tom Lane <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Daniel Gustafsson @ 2022-03-14 09:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Daniel Westermann (DWE) <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> > On 13 Mar 2022, at 17:05, Daniel Westermann (DWE) <[email protected]> wrote: > if you follow that example step by step, the mkdir command will fail, obviously: > https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/install-short.html > > Is it worth fixing that with "mkdir -p ..."? Well, it will fail unless the user already had /usr/local/pgsql/, but I hear what you're saying. Though I bet almost anyone following this will be able to figure it out but there is little to no value in not being correct. -- Daniel Gustafsson https://vmware.com/ ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source 2022-03-13 16:05 Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source Daniel Westermann (DWE) <[email protected]> 2022-03-14 09:08 ` Re: Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> @ 2022-03-14 14:01 ` Tom Lane <[email protected]> 2022-03-14 14:28 ` Re: Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Tom Lane @ 2022-03-14 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>; +Cc: Daniel Westermann (DWE) <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> writes: > On 13 Mar 2022, at 17:05, Daniel Westermann (DWE) <[email protected]> wrote: >> Is it worth fixing that with "mkdir -p ..."? > Well, it will fail unless the user already had /usr/local/pgsql/, but I hear > what you're saying. Though I bet almost anyone following this will be able to > figure it out but there is little to no value in not being correct. I think that at the time that was written, mkdir didn't universally have a "-p" option. But POSIX has required that for a very long time, so it's probably safe to assume it now. A larger issue is that blind "mkdir -p" may not produce the ownerships and permissions you want for the parent directories. That's not a topic to get into in a one-line summary, though. regards, tom lane ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source 2022-03-13 16:05 Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source Daniel Westermann (DWE) <[email protected]> 2022-03-14 09:08 ` Re: Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> 2022-03-14 14:01 ` Re: Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source Tom Lane <[email protected]> @ 2022-03-14 14:28 ` Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> 2022-03-14 14:54 ` Re: Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source Daniel Westermann (DWE) <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Daniel Gustafsson @ 2022-03-14 14:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tom Lane <[email protected]>; +Cc: Daniel Westermann (DWE) <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> > On 14 Mar 2022, at 15:01, Tom Lane <[email protected]> wrote: > > Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> writes: >> On 13 Mar 2022, at 17:05, Daniel Westermann (DWE) <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Is it worth fixing that with "mkdir -p ..."? > >> Well, it will fail unless the user already had /usr/local/pgsql/, but I hear >> what you're saying. Though I bet almost anyone following this will be able to >> figure it out but there is little to no value in not being correct. > > I think that at the time that was written, mkdir didn't universally > have a "-p" option. But POSIX has required that for a very long > time, so it's probably safe to assume it now. Yeah, I wasn't able to find any credibly still useable system man page which didn't list -p. (the fact that IRIX seems to have been one of very few to have a long option '--parents' was an interesting archeological tidbit learned.) > A larger issue is that blind "mkdir -p" may not produce the ownerships > and permissions you want for the parent directories. That's not a > topic to get into in a one-line summary, though. Agreed, we're skipping over lots of details in this short version. I'll to make the mkdir -p change happen later today unless someone feels strongly about leaving it out. -- Daniel Gustafsson https://vmware.com/ ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source 2022-03-13 16:05 Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source Daniel Westermann (DWE) <[email protected]> 2022-03-14 09:08 ` Re: Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> 2022-03-14 14:01 ` Re: Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source Tom Lane <[email protected]> 2022-03-14 14:28 ` Re: Fir mkdir command in "Short Version" for installing from source Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> @ 2022-03-14 14:54 ` Daniel Westermann (DWE) <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Daniel Westermann (DWE) @ 2022-03-14 14:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>; Tom Lane <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> On 14 Mar 2022, at 15:01, Tom Lane <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> writes: >>> On 13 Mar 2022, at 17:05, Daniel Westermann (DWE) <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Is it worth fixing that with "mkdir -p ..."? >> >>> Well, it will fail unless the user already had /usr/local/pgsql/, but I hear >>> what you're saying. Though I bet almost anyone following this will be able to >>> figure it out but there is little to no value in not being correct. >> >> I think that at the time that was written, mkdir didn't universally >> have a "-p" option. But POSIX has required that for a very long >> time, so it's probably safe to assume it now. >Yeah, I wasn't able to find any credibly still useable system man page which >didn't list -p. (the fact that IRIX seems to have been one of very few to have >a long option '--parents' was an interesting archeological tidbit learned.) >> A larger issue is that blind "mkdir -p" may not produce the ownerships >> and permissions you want for the parent directories. That's not a >> topic to get into in a one-line summary, though. >Agreed, we're skipping over lots of details in this short version. >I'll to make the mkdir -p change happen later today unless someone feels >strongly about leaving it out. Thank you Daniel and Tom Regards Daniel ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 5+ messages in thread
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