Received: from localhost (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2D39F9C35 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:18:32 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 67276-02 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:18:15 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: delayed 00:06:05.311901 by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from asav05.insightbb.com (gateway.insightbb.com [74.128.0.19]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DFE9F93A4 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:18:31 -0400 (AST) Received: from dhcp-74-132-148-68.insightbb.com (HELO mail.dawninglight.net) ([74.132.148.68]) by asav05.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2006 09:09:24 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah4FAEMBeUVKhJREVWdsb2JhbACNNgEr Received: from dspam.dawninglight.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.dawninglight.net (Postfix) with SMTP id EF5ABB6E54 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:09:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from [0.0.0.0] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.dawninglight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3696B3DFF for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:09:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4579720E.4000707@dawninglight.net> Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:09:18 -0500 From: David Blewett User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pgsql-docs@postgreSQL.org Subject: Switching to XML X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: url=http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x66695CEB0363B4B6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Dec 8 09:09:22 2006 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 1.0000 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0023 X-DSPAM-Signature: 45797212278605059221152 X-DSPAM-Factors: 27, could, 0.40000, could, 0.40000, Received*(localhost+[127.0.0.1]), 0.40000, script+When, 0.40000, Received*docs+postgreSQL.org>, 0.40000, encountered, 0.40000, could+get, 0.40000, Received*Dec, 0.40000, pdf, 0.40000, (MingW32)+Comment, 0.40000, if+someone, 0.40000, To*pgsql, 0.40000, from, 0.40000, from, 0.40000, to+go, 0.40000, money, 0.40000, Url*com/pub/a/2004/07/14/dbndx, 0.40000, of, 0.40000, of, 0.40000, GaY6Dz2vUi+I=, 0.40000, those+here, 0.40000, thread+from, 0.40000, Received*Dec+2006, 0.40000, profit, 0.40000, Message-ID*dawninglight.net>, 0.40000, From*Blewett, 0.40000, mention+that, 0.40000 X-Archive-Number: 200612/34 X-Sequence-Number: 3957 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi All: I read a thread from July explaining the current status of moving to XML [1]. Peter, you mention that if someone has a clear need you would be open to switching. Let me explain the problems I've encountered with SGML. A few months ago, I split up the 8.1 pdf into 2 volumes so that I could get a hardbound copy from Lulu. You can get those here [2-3] (I'm not making any money, it's the pure cost of production). For 8.2, I wanted to go deeper and be able to distribute the final version to bookstores. In order to do that, each volume needs to be under 700 pages. I started work on modifying the SGML to use a set of 3 volumes, split at roughly 500 page intervals. I wanted to generate individual ToC's and indexes for each volume. I started to modify the SGML to include a "role" attribute for each indexterm, to tell what volume it was part of. This was done with a simple sed script. When I went to generate the actual indexes, I hit a brick wall. Apparently, the SGML toolchain cannot handle typed indexes as described here [4]. Only the XML toolchain currently handles them. I am working with Joshua Drake on creating a Lulu account for the fundraising group. We would then move the volumes I did for 8.1 to their account, and raise the price so that any profit went to them. The ability to order the 8.2 manual from bookstores could increase the visibility of the project as a whole. David Blewett 1. http://groups.google.com/group/pgsql.docs/browse_thread/thread/37ff3a011bb705d7 2. http://www.lulu.com/content/455020 3. http://www.lulu.com/content/464949 4. http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2004/07/14/dbndx.html?page=3 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFeXIOZmlc6wNjtLYRAo2yAKCZT1NbsklCd8djADdv48MuLELG7wCfYYG3 ypUw8LU3g++GaY6Dz2vUi+I= =lC+c -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----