Received: from localhost (maia-1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9E49FA2EC for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:10:41 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 46985-01 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:10:41 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from homsrv01.homisco.local (mail.homisco.com [64.213.65.19]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DB59FA1DE for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:10:41 -0400 (AST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([192.168.10.77]) by homsrv01.homisco.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 8 Dec 2006 17:10:39 -0500 Message-ID: <4579E2DD.7060401@oisinglynn.com> Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:10:37 -0500 From: Oisin Glynn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joshua D. Drake" CC: Scott Marlowe , Peter Eisentraut , Josh Berkus , pgsql-docs@postgresql.org, David Blewett Subject: Re: Switching to XML References: <4579720E.4000707@dawninglight.net> <200612082115.53566.peter_e@gmx.net> <1165609294.24745.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200612082158.06649.peter_e@gmx.net> <1165613160.24745.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1165614356.3243.77.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> <1165614716.24745.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1165614840.3243.81.camel@state.g2switchworks.com> <1165615383.24745.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1165615383.24745.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080507080701020106080703" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2006 22:10:39.0619 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1E50D30:01C71B15] X-Archive-Number: 200612/47 X-Sequence-Number: 3970 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080507080701020106080703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joshua D. Drake wrote: >>> OO treats Docbook like a normal document. You will however loose styles >>> (like bold, italic). It does support tables, it understands >>> transformation from things like sect1 (from OO heading1) etc... >>> >>> The style loss is to be expected because Docbook doesn't contain >>> representation data. That belongs to a style sheet. >>> >> and let me add that I'm not really anti-sgml docbook, I just couldn't >> find a "starter set" for editing the stuff. It seemed like everything I >> found on docbook xml was written for people who already use docbook xml. >> > > Nor am I anti-sgml. I am however anti-noncontribution, if people are not > contributing because of our sgml but would if it is xml, that is a no > brainer. > > Further, here is a real world problem that our toolset creates... > > I take 5 minutes, change the stylesheet for SGML. I want to see what my > changes will look like... 3 days later, I will know. > > That is stupid. If it was XML, it would be 30 minutes. That is a > workable timeframe. > > > Sincerely, > > Joshua D. Drake > > > >> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >> TIP 7: You can help support the PostgreSQL project by donating at >> >> http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate >> >> I am not an expert in any of this but would say the one time I had something I would have added to a doc (windows Vs *nix differences in copy command) I was in knots with the whole SGML thing and figured it would be quicker to just post an answer on the mailing list so it would be immortalized, it should not be so hard to contribute. I feel there are people who maybe cannot code or add in that way but could add to docs if it was easier. I had an easier time setting up a pgAdmin build than figuring out the SGML stuff. 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