Received: from localhost (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C95D9FA1DE for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:41:47 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 92301-01 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:41:41 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.4 Received: from asav09.insightbb.com (gateway.insightbb.com [74.128.0.19]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1149FA19D for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:41:46 -0400 (AST) Received: from dhcp-74-132-148-68.insightbb.com (HELO mail.dawninglight.net) ([74.132.148.68]) by asav09.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2006 09:41:43 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah4FAMKre0VKhJREVWdsb2JhbACCNIsMASs Received: from dspam.dawninglight.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.dawninglight.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D525D54B33 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:41:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (umbar [192.168.0.194]) by mail.dawninglight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CA454AC2; Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:41:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <457C1C76.3080704@dawninglight.net> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:40:54 -0500 From: David Blewett User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Guillaume Lelarge CC: "Joshua D. Drake" , Peter Eisentraut , Josh Berkus , pgsql-docs@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Switching to XML References: <4579720E.4000707@dawninglight.net> <200612082115.53566.peter_e@gmx.net> <1165609294.24745.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200612082158.06649.peter_e@gmx.net> <1165613160.24745.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <457A71F8.6070001@lelarge.info> <1165728445.13210.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <457BE3A6.1090305@lelarge.info> In-Reply-To: <457BE3A6.1090305@lelarge.info> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 OpenPGP: url=http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x66695CEB0363B4B6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Dec 10 09:41:34 2006 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 1.0000 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0023 X-DSPAM-Signature: 457c1c9e278604280710044 X-DSPAM-Factors: 27, DocBook, 0.40000, Received*10+Dec, 0.40000, old+unmaintained, 0.40000, but, 0.40000, IRC, 0.40000, SHA256, 0.40000, XSL, 0.40000, In-Reply-To*<457BE3A6.1090305, 0.40000, 1+79, 0.40000, say+we, 0.40000, think+that, 0.40000, "We"+I, 0.40000, Received*Dec, 0.40000, or, 0.40000, "You"+because, 0.40000, an, 0.40000, (MingW32)+Comment, 0.40000, lot+of, 0.40000, 10, 0.40000, fixed+>, 0.40000, >+customize, 0.40000, of, 0.40000, of, 0.40000, References*<200612082115.53566.peter_e, 0.40000, 1+has, 0.40000, none, 0.40000, 11+03, 0.40000 X-Archive-Number: 200612/79 X-Sequence-Number: 4002 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Guillaume Lelarge wrote: > Second one is also really important to me. XSLT > stylesheets and xsltproc are under active development. You can take a > look here : > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=21935#files > DSSSL 1.79 has been packaged one 2004-11-03, XSL 1.71.1 has been > released on 2006-10-19. And don't get me started on tools. I've seen > recent releases of xsltproc, none of jade, openjade or any of those tools. > > I don't want to say we can't do all these with DocBook SGML. Tom fixed > some stuff on openjade to make it process quickier. Great. We can also > customize DSSSL stylesheets. We can, we can... yes we can do a lot of > things with SGML and DSSSL. When I say "We", I should say "You" because > I don't want to get this burden. I mean, fixing a tool is great... but I > really prefer to see Tom working on PostgreSQL new astounding features > than on an old unmaintained and unused tool. I think this is a good point. I've heard a saying in #postgresql on IRC: "First rate database, second rate tools..." I think that is a shame. David -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFfBx2Zmlc6wNjtLYRCOI4AJ9/v0+k3+zNDS/LjwPzYSM70ILBtwCeImbA z8T/bF8aE/qOV1eUnHeFyCc= =Hf45 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----