Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.187]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E049F99EF; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:06:14 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 42496-03; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:06:04 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF9F9F9A5A; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:06:09 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.10.103] (really [69.134.97.109]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20070830140608.LCQZ5565.cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com@[192.168.10.103]>; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:06:08 +0000 Message-ID: <46D6CECF.7010207@dunslane.net> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:06:07 -0400 From: Andrew Dunstan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.0.12) Gecko/20070719 Fedora/1.0.9-2.fc6 pango-text SeaMonkey/1.0.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Eisentraut CC: Tom Lane , pgsql-docs@postgresql.org, Josh Berkus , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, Albert Cervera i Areny Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Contrib modules documentation online References: <200708290157.07968.albert@nan-tic.com> <46D6C279.5050200@dunslane.net> <26319.1188480404@sss.pgh.pa.us> <200708301543.37948.peter_e@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200708301543.37948.peter_e@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200708/46 X-Sequence-Number: 4393 Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 30. August 2007 15:26 schrieb Tom Lane: > >> I thought a large part of the desire was to improve the visibility of >> the contrib docs, ie, put the docs under the noses of people who have >> *not* installed or even heard of the modules. So "it's not in the docs >> unless you installed it" seems counter to the point. >> > > I thought the point was to make the extensibility features of PostgreSQL more > usable so people would be more inclined to use them. The assumption being > that the problem is not finding things but the hesitation against > using "unofficial" things. Moving everything to the main blob of things > seems to go against that idea. > > So perhaps some market research is required to clarify the actual requirements > and goals. > > The idea that seemed to gain traction last time this was discussed was to treat the contrib modules as standard, included in the core distribution as examples of how modules work, and as modules that have moderately wide use (not sure how true that is of all of them, but I don't see any great point in pushing them out.) Quite apart from anything else, keeping them part of the main distribution helps us to validate the module process via buildfarm etc. So this isn't just "moving everything to the main blob of things". If you want to pay for market research then feel free ;-) cheers andrew