Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996039FBFC1 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:03:50 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87595-03 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:03:47 -0300 (ADT) Received: from news.hub.org (news.hub.org [200.46.204.72]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3272A9FBECE for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:03:50 -0300 (ADT) Received: from news.hub.org (news.hub.org [200.46.204.72]) by news.hub.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l9CI3g7B054577 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:03:42 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from news@news.hub.org) Received: (from news@localhost) by news.hub.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l9CHbNUw027732 for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:37:23 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from news) From: Ron Mayer X-Newsgroups: pgsql.hackers Subject: Re: Release notes introductory text Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:37:33 -0700 Organization: Hub.Org Networking Services Lines: 18 Message-ID: <470FB0DD.2080104@cheapcomplexdevices.com> References: <200710112004.l9BK4eq03596@momjian.us> <470E40B2.EE98.0025.0@wicourts.gov> <20071011165148.045f827c@scratch> <15467.1192152680@sss.pgh.pa.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.hub.org To: Tom Lane User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.12 (X11/20070730) In-Reply-To: <15467.1192152680@sss.pgh.pa.us> To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200710/685 X-Sequence-Number: 109053 Tom Lane wrote: > "Joshua D. Drake" writes: >> With respect to you Kevin, your managers should wait. You don't >> install .0 releases of "any" software into production without "months" >> of testing. At which point, normally a .1 release has come out anyway. > > How exactly do you expect the software to get from a .0 to a .1 release, > or to have addressed the bugs that might bite you when it does get to .1, > if you aren't helping to test it? In most environments I've seen, developer and QA systems don't hesitate to move to .0 releases (or even beta). I agree with Joshua that it's nerve wracking to move _production_ systems to .0 releases from most software vendors. > Now I realize that you did say "test" above, but way too often I see > this sort of argument as a justification for doing nothing and expecting > somebody else to fix it.