Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F149FA376 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:31:41 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 50630-06 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:31:29 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: delayed 00:06:39.615261 by SQLgrey-1.7.5 Received: from smtp104.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp104.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.52.173]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48DA89FA153 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:31:35 -0300 (ADT) Received: (qmail 51724 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2007 23:24:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.35?) (ramayer@forensiclogic.com@64.241.37.140 with plain) by smtp104.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 2007 23:24:54 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: .g0xOYcVM1nADv2lBMfcd1INGTZSSK_DHnKHr1LvQZWwmWEzpu.es9kXvNolsE2FKkUJ35_puQ-- Message-ID: <4713F6C6.4040201@cheapcomplexdevices.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:24:54 -0700 From: rm_rs@cheapcomplexdevices.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (X11/20070824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Grittner CC: Ron Mayer , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Release notes introductory text References: <200710112004.l9BK4eq03596@momjian.us> <470E40B2.EE98.0025.0@wicourts.gov> <20071011165148.045f827c@scratch> <15467.1192152680@sss.pgh.pa.us> <470FB0DD.2080104@cheapcomplexdevices.com> <4713A3F4.EE98.0025.0@wicourts.gov> In-Reply-To: <4713A3F4.EE98.0025.0@wicourts.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.85 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=BAYES_05=-1.11, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200710/765 X-Sequence-Number: 109133 Kevin Grittner wrote: >>> How exactly do you expect the software to get from a .0 to a .1 release, >>> or to have addressed the bugs that might bite you when it does get to .1, >>> if you aren't helping to test it? >>> >> In most environments I've seen, developer and QA systems don't hesitate >> to move to .0 releases (or even beta). I agree with Joshua that it's >> nerve wracking to move _production_ systems to .0 releases from most >> software vendors. >> > > My philosophy is that the final QA environment should be as close to > the production environment as can be arranged, but that difference in > the development and initial test environments contribute to > robustness. > Sorry if I implied otherwise - I was assuming an environment where QA has multiple environments; one of which clearly should be the same as production.