Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B9F2E0032 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:23:05 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23809-06 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:22:52 -0400 (AST) Received: from nabagan.bluegap.ch (nabagan.bluegap.ch [88.198.58.248]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14EC2E003B for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:22:59 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.0.233] (berlin.programmfabrik.de [::ffff:213.221.101.147]) (AUTH: CRAM-MD5 markus@bluegap.ch) by nabagan.bluegap.ch with esmtp; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:40:52 +0100 id 0081B1C7.4746D864.00004FA9 Message-ID: <4746D3D2.2080809@bluegap.ch> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:21:22 +0100 From: Markus Schiltknecht User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071018) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Momjian CC: PostgreSQL-documentation Subject: Re: High Availability, Load Balancing, and Replication Feature Matrix References: <200711192121.lAJLLAi07431@momjian.us> In-Reply-To: <200711192121.lAJLLAi07431@momjian.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200711/82 X-Sequence-Number: 4615 Hello Bruce, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Uh, to me the issue is something like pgpool and Sequoia, where the > _master_/replication is happening _outside_ the server Well, you are saying that the controllers are the masters and do replication. I can see the reasoning behind it: they are the only nodes which allow write access, seen from the outside. However, I don't consider these controllers to be masters nor slaves, because they don't carry a replica of the data. Instead I'm considering the database nodes which are (synchronously or not) processing the writing transactions on behalf of the controller to be the masters. They do all the work and the locking, and they carry the replicated data. PgCluster (and therefore Cybercluster, too) seem to follow my definition, as they are advertising themselves as multi-master replication solutions (even though they only support one single controller, AFAICT). I didn't find any self-definition of PgPool's replication feature nor Sequoias. However, I'd argue that both are generally considered synchronous multi-master replication solutions as well, even if there's only one controller. > vs something > like Oracle RAC where it is happening inside the server. ..or like Postgres-R :-) Regards Markus