From jay.levitt@gmail.com Sun Feb 12 16:54:49 2012 Received: from magus.postgresql.org (magus.postgresql.org [87.238.57.229]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A70315095D0 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:54:49 -0400 (AST) Received: from mail-qy0-f174.google.com ([209.85.216.174]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RwchK-0000i2-Lg for pgsql-docs@postgresql.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:54:48 +0000 Received: by qcqw6 with SMTP id w6so2550422qcq.19 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:54:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ix9xnmXzJg/pbNshHDzNw1X5zcYA2m37WMI+V8wYa5s=; b=ZLSwfe6uUiY75IsCxtZ4xTpo4my2nvY0ASYybXCVAGvDGGLTqeYVQKFH3DMQe8i1F8 4X7iCXfCoXup/rkvdaxK2LNL7zmb5zlFzHZkIR3WYdPoKdhCLg/fzWyDJrOLSNUzAaXI zqR0n7DJL0UclLeI2GJOoIhNby15Vn1INQU3A= Received: by 10.224.27.20 with SMTP id g20mr7499631qac.39.1329065673734; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from speedbook-air.home.jay.fm (home.jay.fm. [173.166.48.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c2sm27928378qao.15.2012.02.12.08.54.32 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:54:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F37EEC7.9080302@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:54:31 -0500 From: Jay Levitt User-Agent: Postbox 3.0.2 (Macintosh/20111203) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pg Docs Subject: HTML Page titles in HTML version? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Archive-Number: 201202/3 X-Sequence-Number: 7187 I frequently find myself with multiple tabs open to the docs site, all titled "PosgreSQL: Documentation". Does the new site back-end make it easy to add a meaningful tag, or would that take a mass commit to the core docs? Jay Levitt From magnus@hagander.net Sun Feb 12 16:59:49 2012 Received: from makus.postgresql.org (makus.postgresql.org [98.129.198.125]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1C215095D0; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:59:49 -0400 (AST) Received: from mail-iy0-f174.google.com ([209.85.210.174]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <magnus@hagander.net>) id 1RwcmD-00088J-0q; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:59:49 +0000 Received: by iacb35 with SMTP id b35so2959100iac.19 for <multiple recipients>; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:59:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.104.164 with SMTP id gf4mr22424355igb.28.1329065976335; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:59:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.150.2 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:59:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F37EEC7.9080302@gmail.com> References: <4F37EEC7.9080302@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:59:36 +0100 Message-ID: <CABUevEwFR5_+_Cy3+Vw9ccWg-PVESHyxFtg6gQa1i=duGoSW8w@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [DOCS] HTML Page titles in HTML version? From: Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> To: Jay Levitt <jay.levitt@gmail.com> Cc: Pg Docs <pgsql-docs@postgresql.org>, PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www@postgresql.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmpRT4zzjCQH/tCP82zvd5XK884oTjAPokE8/qPvQBpt5rkXO4ko99LT5vtYxWFeJSk4E9S X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Archive-Number: 201202/24 X-Sequence-Number: 20507 On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 17:54, Jay Levitt <jay.levitt@gmail.com> wrote: > I frequently find myself with multiple tabs open to the docs site, all > titled "PosgreSQL: Documentation". Does the new site back-end make it eas= y > to add a meaningful <TITLE> tag, or would that take a mass commit to the > core docs? Actually, it *has* the information in the title. E.g. "PostgreSQL: Documentation: Manuals: Queries". It's just too long. Maybe we need to reverse the elements in the title? But I don't think it's limited to docs - don't you have the same problem with all other pages? They all start with "PostgreSQL:" - perhaps that should be changed to instead suffix them with "- PostgreSQL"? (moving to -www since it affects the whole site) --=20 =A0Magnus Hagander =A0Me: http://www.hagander.net/ =A0Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ From jay.levitt@gmail.com Sun Feb 12 21:20:34 2012 Received: from magus.postgresql.org (magus.postgresql.org [87.238.57.229]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D09D7C8EC; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:20:34 -0400 (AST) Received: from mail-qw0-f46.google.com ([209.85.216.46]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <jay.levitt@gmail.com>) id 1RwgqW-0005Fd-3E; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:20:34 +0000 Received: by qadc10 with SMTP id c10so1289223qad.19 for <multiple recipients>; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:20:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7xHTB1qbOZkjnSvSMq2cUlCrgB42V2xiyJZjEQF97+w=; b=gTQo+5sZo9dyHFsyTb66o3Uow2sf2k9+MMQ8Xi5mk9Dy2BolA+lUWUij1i+FDU4mRW FhScVgpchHdulC3xUEhCT9HadoCd9Uh33Gop8dh1BAYxxtGrbg0O4fZiOEZNMhQ8St5y zEr+Hwv2IbEVtd0Yn/cBL92JtCdiTE8qskf0U= Received: by 10.224.95.196 with SMTP id e4mr7936175qan.63.1329081618615; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:20:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from speedbook-air.home.jay.fm (home.jay.fm. [173.166.48.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fd1sm29333105qab.1.2012.02.12.13.20.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:20:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F382D10.2030902@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:20:16 -0500 From: Jay Levitt <jay.levitt@gmail.com> User-Agent: Postbox 3.0.2 (Macintosh/20111203) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> CC: Pg Docs <pgsql-docs@postgresql.org>, PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www@postgresql.org> Subject: Re: [DOCS] HTML Page titles in HTML version? References: <4F37EEC7.9080302@gmail.com> <CABUevEwFR5_+_Cy3+Vw9ccWg-PVESHyxFtg6gQa1i=duGoSW8w@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CABUevEwFR5_+_Cy3+Vw9ccWg-PVESHyxFtg6gQa1i=duGoSW8w@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Archive-Number: 201202/25 X-Sequence-Number: 20508 Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 17:54, Jay Levitt<jay.levitt@gmail.com> wrote: >> I frequently find myself with multiple tabs open to the docs site, all >> titled "PosgreSQL: Documentation". Does the new site back-end make it easy >> to add a meaningful<TITLE> tag, or would that take a mass commit to the >> core docs? > > Actually, it *has* the information in the title. E.g. "PostgreSQL: > Documentation: Manuals: Queries". It's just too long. > > Maybe we need to reverse the elements in the title? > > But I don't think it's limited to docs - don't you have the same > problem with all other pages? They all start with "PostgreSQL:" - > perhaps that should be changed to instead suffix them with "- > PostgreSQL"? Yeah, in general it's best practice to post the most specific part of the title first, so that short tabs will still show the relevant info. Also used to help with SEO; not sure if it still does, but it might explain why you don't always get the right page when doing a Google search. Jay From magnus@hagander.net Wed Feb 15 09:57:12 2012 Received: from makus.postgresql.org (makus.postgresql.org [98.129.198.125]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CE5A5CB37; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 05:57:12 -0400 (AST) Received: from mail-yx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.213.174]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <magnus@hagander.net>) id 1Rxbbs-00082q-B3; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:57:13 +0000 Received: by yenm8 with SMTP id m8so503365yen.19 for <multiple recipients>; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:56:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.11.129 with SMTP id q1mr40612216igb.23.1329299819563; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:56:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.43.6 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:56:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F382D10.2030902@gmail.com> References: <4F37EEC7.9080302@gmail.com> <CABUevEwFR5_+_Cy3+Vw9ccWg-PVESHyxFtg6gQa1i=duGoSW8w@mail.gmail.com> <4F382D10.2030902@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:56:59 +0100 Message-ID: <CABUevEx4o-MNjXer-9Yc1XSSDwFE24SfLGkKS5BzQvG4a=UHmg@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [DOCS] HTML Page titles in HTML version? From: Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> To: Jay Levitt <jay.levitt@gmail.com> Cc: Pg Docs <pgsql-docs@postgresql.org>, PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www@postgresql.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmqUiwz6AAj8qYzvsurVj7rGeTmt5QTOLk0zqKzo62EA96rfY1T05Qk7G+44oV7nHVXnRav X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Archive-Number: 201202/33 X-Sequence-Number: 20516 On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 22:20, Jay Levitt <jay.levitt@gmail.com> wrote: > Magnus Hagander wrote: >> >> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 17:54, Jay Levitt<jay.levitt@gmail.com> =A0wrote= : >>> >>> I frequently find myself with multiple tabs open to the docs site, all >>> titled "PosgreSQL: Documentation". Does the new site back-end make it >>> easy >>> to add a meaningful<TITLE> =A0tag, or would that take a mass commit to = the >>> core docs? >> >> >> Actually, it *has* the information in the title. E.g. "PostgreSQL: >> Documentation: Manuals: Queries". It's just too long. >> >> Maybe we need to reverse the elements in the title? >> >> But I don't think it's limited to docs - don't you have the same >> problem with all other pages? They all start with "PostgreSQL:" - >> perhaps that should be changed to instead suffix them with "- >> PostgreSQL"? > > Yeah, in general it's best practice to post the most specific part of the > title first, so that short tabs will still show the relevant info. =A0Als= o > used to help with SEO; not sure if it still does, but it might explain wh= y > you don't always get the right page when doing a Google search. Probably. I've put this on our TODO list for things to do with the website in a reasonable short term. (I doubt it has anything to do with SEO though, especially someone like google are a lot smarter than that) --=20 =A0Magnus Hagander =A0Me: http://www.hagander.net/ =A0Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/