Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4F563287B for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 11:17:18 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27518-01 for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 14:17:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-gy0-f174.google.com (mail-gy0-f174.google.com [209.85.160.174]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B8A632266 for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 11:17:11 -0300 (ADT) Received: by gyg13 with SMTP id 13so962797gyg.19 for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 07:17:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:cc :subject:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=+gOu+NrOoOTRiJV7359A6FUno7A1Qhaa5SwMgFNhNtk=; b=Ae5f/3CKCYA/RZJgaMF7IVQc9oNs0rYKvsJGi3FsdUn4y1XsVn0zMXt8EIbhXrs5wQ bLFVk6Q+kzW3LgrhNF1l7pPSxvFXE29+TUW22bHx2lEshwo0tv0xu411egCO+dqalMsl XcFf8OC4oSJ9gttZeps3UZTnKaP/U54IrPU04= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:cc:subject:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=Pu7QxHer4obIv9gWzEmsuz0d50+H6NNhobJM8hZrAEG0K9MN6vXKBngkSHQjzA2pUu +6tizujIh04jBDZQkrRVNnAGCF64mlEUPFxfSaxaXN4Pc76LS+BtzkLK8M4LfRbQIxq7 3mFNeJT6F6AOeUzw01PtpmCQ0CsHjE5M6kk+8= Received: by 10.231.120.100 with SMTP id c36mr377452ibr.77.1275055828922; Fri, 28 May 2010 07:10:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eddie (c-67-182-224-31.hsd1.ut.comcast.net [67.182.224.31]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r12sm10944617ibi.20.2010.05.28.07.10.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 28 May 2010 07:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4bffced3.8c43e70a.68d9.64ee@mx.google.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 08:10:24 -0600 From: Joshua Tolley To: Bruce Momjian Cc: Stefan Kaltenbrunner , Robert Haas , Francisco Reyes , Greg Sabino Mullane , pgsql-docs@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Londiste References: <4BFEDF29.3040908@kaltenbrunner.cc> <201005280314.o4S3EmI22630@momjian.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201005280314.o4S3EmI22630@momjian.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 tagged_above=-5 required=5 tests=BAYES_05=-0.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201005/58 X-Sequence-Number: 5555 --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:14:48PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: > > > The point is that there is a lot of replication information I don't w= ant > > > to merge into that SGML page so even if we mention "Londiste", the wi= ki > > > reference is still useful. I have the same problem with mentioning > > > pooling in the docs --- there is no natural place to put it, but I can > > > reference the wiki from the performance SGML docs. > >=20 > > well the problem seems to be that we are basically trying to recreate= =20 > > the stuff on the wiki in the main docs in a way that might end up in=20 > > being outdated all the time. > > I think that we need to draw a clear line where we do external links=20 > > (random sites or the wiki) and internal docs. everything that is the=20 > > core product needs to be in the main docs if we go above that (and that= =20 > > includes all the replication stuff and whatnot) we should just referenc= e=20 > > an external source (wiki.postgresql.org prefered - fallback to somethin= g=20 > > else) but maintaining just some stuff in our own docs seems just wrong.= =2E. >=20 > Yea, the wiki information is far too bulky to fit into our docs, and > maintaining it in our docs isn't worthwhile because it is more > _suggestions_ than critical information. Perhaps the docs should just say exactly that: The PostgreSQL community has developed a wide variety of additional software and made it available for general use. This documentation describes only the software in the "core" PostgreSQL distribution (comprising the server, a set of client programs, and the contrib packages), and does not attempt to document this additional software in any detail. Interested readers are advised to consult the PostgreSQL wiki at http://wiki.postgresql.org for further details ISTM there's a page somewhere on the wiki that tries to be a comprehensive listing of add-ons, but I can't find it. Maybe that page ought to get speci= al mention in such documentation. -- Joshua Tolley / eggyknap End Point Corporation http://www.endpoint.com --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkv/ztAACgkQRiRfCGf1UMPgCACgn9AcxSeM6tg2/sZ2G9LXUY5w M9wAn1H61vM2E5Xx5RlGtwyZ8ZweF2iW =FAQ2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND--