Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pfC9e-0005sw-Gp for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2023 04:02:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pfC9d-0004ZL-At for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2023 04:02:21 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pfC9d-0004ZC-3V for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2023 04:02:21 +0000 Received: from mout-u-107.mailbox.org ([2001:67c:2050:101:465::107]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pfC9a-0002AZ-Ol for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2023 04:02:20 +0000 Received: from smtp2.mailbox.org (smtp2.mailbox.org [IPv6:2001:67c:2050:b231:465::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-384) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mout-u-107.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Phs9c5xvsz9sQl; Thu, 23 Mar 2023 05:02:12 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 05:02:11 +0100 (CET) From: Erik Wienhold To: Ian Lawrence Barwick Cc: Siddharth Jain , pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org Message-ID: <604515456.123784.1679544131316@office.mailbox.org> In-Reply-To: References: <555530396.178188.1679541770635@office.mailbox.org> Subject: Re: Publishing Postgres Manual as a book MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Phs9c5xvsz9sQl List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk > On 23/03/2023 04:34 CET Ian Lawrence Barwick wrote: > > 2023=E5=B9=B43=E6=9C=8823=E6=97=A5(=E6=9C=A8) 12:23 Erik Wienhold : > > > > > On 23/03/2023 02:35 CET Siddharth Jain wrote: > > > > > > The Postgres Manual is available online as a PDF but I think having i= t in a > > > book form could be useful to some. > > > > > > Is it legal for me to publish the manual as a book? > > > > IANAL, but I'd say yes as long as you don't take a fee. The legal noti= ce of > > the documentation grants distribution of the documentation "for any pur= pose, > > without fee". > > Also not a lawyer, but the full sentence is: > > > Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its > > documentation for any purpose, without fee, and without a written agree= ment is > > hereby granted > > which in my non-lawyerly interpretation means anyone copying, modifying a= nd > distributing the documentation may do so without paying a fee. A distribu= tor > could charge what they like. I know the fee clause from licenses such as Zero-Clause BSD, ISC License, a= nd GPLv3. They state "with or without fee" or "gratis or for a fee" pertainin= g to the distribution. That's also how I interpret the fee clause in the Postgr= eSQL license with the difference that it does not permit taking a fee. > AFAIR the documentation has previously been published in book form, thoug= h as > it runs to about 3,000 A4 pages now, the logistics are non-trivial. It's also out of date pretty quickly with four releases a year. -- Erik