Subject: Re: UTF-8 docs
To: Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@sraoss.co.jp>
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From: Alexander Law <exclusion@gmail.com>
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Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 10:13:38 +0300
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24.08.2016 09:58, Tatsuo Ishii пишет:
> Please look at the attached .pot for one of the doc files. You can use
>> any translation software (which supports .po (e.g. poedit, Lokalize,
>> ...)) to translate it to any language.
>> And you can look at all the docs converted to .po for translation:
>> http://oc.postgrespro.ru/index.php/s/puEJKoUwbZ3dia5/download
> Ok, the idea is, each sentence in the doc are regarded as "very long
> message". Interesting. Looks better than "replacing SGML contents with
> translated contents" (which Japanese doc project is doing for now).
Yes, the DocBook format has the natural blocks such as <para>, <title>, 
<indexterm>, ... which could be translated as the separate text 
fragments. So it's the question of the most accurate mapping of those 
blocks to .po fragments and back. (We use for it customized xml2po from 
gnome-doc-utils but there are another programs too.) All the other text 
processing could be done with the rich gettext toolset.

> Unfortunately I can't read Japanese and don't understand how Japanese
> FreeBSD team works (and why cant it use the gettext technologies) ,
> but the main FreeBSD Documentation team is moving to PO (see
> https://www.bsdcan.org/2016/schedule/track/Hacking/680.en.html).
Please look at the presentation, and the 
http://wonkity.com/~wblock/translation/translation.pdf -- these 
documents greatly explain all the challenges of the pre-existing 
approach and the solutions.


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