Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iomNm-0000bg-DW for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 10:46:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iomNk-0002FD-Rg for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 10:46:40 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iomNk-0002C9-GI for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 10:46:40 +0000 Received: from mail-wm1-x341.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::341]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iomNd-0007pn-O1 for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 10:46:39 +0000 Received: by mail-wm1-x341.google.com with SMTP id p17so18830860wma.1 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 02:46:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cybertec-at.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Kn61meQe/4yBJ15Z1ZDYkBB/T6mG352LyOdypOMcW0g=; b=anBntF3+ue4uJl+4Lbj/bzXovZQlirt1qiA8OlWBZZI4GdaMLiaUZuEebZ4fgjfLIT inmpyYRvsw8DhMWGo1YR1tJSHGmnaEm3ftIpGj8mPq4Zns56QdjPRVN+8SFSVLNt6MI+ 8BO3JwwnaHwf951CdECFAdXHH6ZlG5xtsx0ZX8quLWg6MFqNsyzmhaptPqefHhL8xNED 3cAUWHN5NESNaK9/djsyNJDIoPAfd+PG/plYtdN3Go1o5hMBdx6UKQ8edvRRWyT4/Pnv F3hPmHSsfHZygZY01ZqWsoU3MzrgSuVSGe6gLom0+PQJXfeJuZWs//ynDv7YAZJtlbIi mmCw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to :references:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Kn61meQe/4yBJ15Z1ZDYkBB/T6mG352LyOdypOMcW0g=; b=qr53QA0MkgKKccpXrSf5I0rPLPyo73EnKdLQ5SeZWpLu3ZD3FeQeBgiFZJQAun4S+f H04pSYP9num6ZYxIU8DlwR3HPRxSJSTdSnnE8IVHfxuMI8PJr3DzI42isyXuiFsG3onZ y05ptFbaXWMGaUaZf6+B79jZwgH9tJokhoez9szSCuj3gQpgaQMH9vke9kLM5kWJhQ20 DgYxchN8ziHGfeNUMHJxdyMS9MZ3QIk3iCisV+0SYEVXb7tBHB9Hz0LnihuO1ABZOTqc hRoe+xO3OKyMHsV2VvWqdAdEtQaHLTvQts+2S8shIg8CNq1aNQMWOWx1UUqqa0bS4JWa XQ7w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVgxePPQWR+EWoahOMbxGs3CYvWX/mDy9d9gUTTF0CKyFLpF5SZ vd+E12PwFbu8cU/awhKOMH9fT+6SWE4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyc2fHu5sdGJJkqxZHeP5QgpTDM9eD9y4Uu51Sb8ZKQmuZdYt8o3paZazhNUnomMYNYJIKlKg== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:cc97:: with SMTP id p23mr41258831wma.89.1578393992172; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 02:46:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([212.186.219.234]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x11sm26031874wmg.46.2020.01.07.02.46.31 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 07 Jan 2020 02:46:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8c2f4f1b90c993c8c6338b978a78a9ebbcd1c934.camel@cybertec.at> Subject: Re: Documentation: 21.5. Default Roles From: Laurenz Albe To: Bruce Momjian , rirans@comcast.net, pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2020 11:46:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20191227171654.GA2992@momjian.us> References: <157742545062.1149.11052653770497832538@wrigleys.postgresql.org> <20191227171654.GA2992@momjian.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.32.5 (3.32.5-1.fc30) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2019-12-27 at 12:16 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 05:44:10AM +0000, PG Doc comments form wrote: > > The following documentation comment has been logged on the website: > > > > Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/12/default-roles.html > > Description: > > > > The title is wrong. The roles are not defaults; they are predefined and > > privileged. The title suggests that a user should expect to be assigned > > these roles. "21.5 Sub-Administrator Roles" would be accurate--improving > > clarity over all and removing any need to explain why postgres is not in > > this list of roles. > > > > Good points. I have developed the attached documentation patch which > includes your ideas. +1 I think that "predefined role" is better than "default role". Yours, Laurenz Albe -- Cybertec | https://www.cybertec-postgresql.com