Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oVeFZ-0001hm-NR for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2022 19:28:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oVeFX-0004PD-7g for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2022 19:28:43 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oVeFW-0004P4-FL for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2022 19:28:42 +0000 Received: from wout1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.24]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oVeFN-0000CT-3F for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2022 19:28:42 +0000 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41B33200313; Tue, 6 Sep 2022 15:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 06 Sep 2022 15:28:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender :subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t=1662492508; x=1662578908; bh=U LsxO1tNiDp7xjyqibY1njoPsNbFu0Je7gKzGs9iiR8=; b=hGkk30bbQGByGQlmM +eigicGgqaVzwotYNNZo80zWMQft9cJXPZwMr0Ms4hyzgA3afcwE/R+rJoCNV5Ep mT+fV2HbDQa1q/o0/BDphGDc6LiySkVvvfetQmB2eRqWopskzE+nPpm/nqVnEybj x2S82id/YDPmlmytzmaesqqZWh6BEhRrRWeOHG1K3UnT1LF2QkhmdDqzcoagDR6W HWKiimF4OCX09yQeYzNCA2GBAehmI/Kom/nm7xkpH5ilvyS9vfuoVfBoJ3M9HNM2 37Dca7EYWuj5YIzUUNpQ7jkam2VIcOBTU/RPiSIwYyyG2Li18n9pZoqr2k5vmBXE 6tJ2A== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvfedrvdelkedgudeflecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepkfffgggfuffvfhfhjggtgfesth ekredttdefjeenucfhrhhomheprfgvthgvrhcugfhishgvnhhtrhgruhhtuceophgvthgv rhdrvghishgvnhhtrhgruhhtsegvnhhtvghrphhrihhsvggusgdrtghomheqnecuggftrf grthhtvghrnhepieejgeekfeduueevhfefheegjeeuuedtvdfhtdelledtheefheevhefh gffhkeeknecuffhomhgrihhnpehrvghlrgignhhgrdhorhhgpdhfrghurdguvgdpugdrug hotghsnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhep phgvthgvrhdrvghishgvnhhtrhgruhhtsegvnhhtvghrphhrihhsvggusgdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i131946ab:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 6 Sep 2022 15:28:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8ee6b50c-8241-a98f-fd5a-8a3de34ebbc2@enterprisedb.com> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2022 21:28:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.13.0 Subject: Re: DocBook 5.2 Content-Language: en-US To: =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=bcrgen_Purtz?= , pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org References: <20220904153904.cr47zyoh5dfuctev@alvherre.pgsql> From: Peter Eisentraut In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 05.09.22 11:50, Jürgen Purtz wrote: > Therefore, we should consider to introduce another validator. During the migration phase, > we have used **jing**. It's Java, it's fast, the error messages are very precise. But there > are many others:https://relaxng.org/#validators. Should we possibly provide multiple > validators in doc/src/sgml/Makefile? If you follow the links on that page, it appears that all the projects other than jing are abandoned. Even jing has a very sporadic release history (2015 -> 2018 -> 2022). Last year at FOSDEM I gave a talk about the state of the DocBook toolchain [0], where I found that there is pretty much no tooling available for Relax-NG. So it's great that there is a 2022 release of jing, but before we can consider relying on that, it might be nice to see a bit more of a track record. (And we should also wait a little to make it trickle in stable packages for common operating systems.) [0]: https://ftp.fau.de/fosdem/2021/D.docs/ttdpostgresdocbook.webm