Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gnNqV-0002FS-Jk for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:18:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gnNqU-0003O4-Hp for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:18:02 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gnNnU-0000kC-Pc for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:14:56 +0000 Received: from meldrar.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::31]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gnNnR-0005Lk-Ps for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:14:56 +0000 Received: from pool-96-250-83-19.nycmny.fios.verizon.net ([96.250.83.19] helo=Ph33r-Retina.home) by meldrar.postgresql.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gnNnO-0005JI-FR; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:14:52 +0000 Subject: Re: Release note trimming: another modest proposal To: Bruce Momjian , Tom Lane Cc: Magnus Hagander , Peter Eisentraut , pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org References: <19252.1533509841@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190125233111.GE13803@momjian.us> <16080.1548459680@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190125234614.GH13803@momjian.us> From: "Jonathan S. 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Katz" To: Bruce Momjian , Tom Lane Cc: Magnus Hagander , Peter Eisentraut , pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org Message-ID: <8fd2ae88-49de-26f3-def3-e4381cb7e774@postgresql.org> Subject: Re: Release note trimming: another modest proposal References: <19252.1533509841@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190125233111.GE13803@momjian.us> <16080.1548459680@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190125234614.GH13803@momjian.us> In-Reply-To: <20190125234614.GH13803@momjian.us> --ztBgZoelnlidscNYLP6SQ3019wGucvih1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1/25/19 6:46 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 06:41:20PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: >> Bruce Momjian writes: >>> I assume this means we would only keep the current release notes in t= he >>> git tree too, e.g. 11.0, 11.1, 11.2, etc. >> >> Yeah, I'd imagine that each branch would have just its own release not= es. >> >> I'm not sure whether to apply this policy retroactively to the support= ed >> back branches or just establish it going forward. Maintaining the not= es >> could be pretty confusing for the next few years if we do the latter, >> though. >=20 > Agreed. We would need to backpatch. >=20 I am in favor of backpatching. The one "caveat" I will bring up is that once pushed and applied to the site, we would bring introduce a lot of 404s into the website. Doing some research on our traffic analytics on the past 6 months, the only release notes that even registered in the top 500 pages visited were the ones from whatever the newest release was (i.e. 10.4, 10.5, 11.0, 11.1). That, combined with that I don't think we will take an SEO hit from unceremoniously removing the pages even with the sudden rise in 404s, should make it ok to backpatch. 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