public inbox for [email protected]  
help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Robert Haas <[email protected]>
To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
Cc: Michael Tharp <[email protected]>
Cc: Craig Ringer <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: no universally correct setting for fsync
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 11:41:22 -0400
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
	<[email protected]>

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> wrote:
> Michael Tharp wrote:
>> On 05/08/2010 04:07 AM, Craig Ringer wrote:
>> > It's probably worth mentioning that people who want to turn off fsync to
>> > gain a performance boost should instead look at a RAID controller with a
>> > BBU so they can safely enable write-back caching, getting most of the
>> > benefits of fsync=off safely.
>>
>> Which options specifically should be set if a BBU is in use? Obviously
>> fsync should be on always, but can full_page_writes be disabled? Are
>> there other tweaks that can be done?
>>
>> It would be great to see some practical hints in the documentation while
>> the fsync part is getting changed.
>
> Uh, our docs have:
>
>        Turning this parameter off speeds normal operation, but might
>        lead to a corrupt database after an operating system crash or
>        power failure. The risks are similar to turning off
>        <varname>fsync</>, though smaller.  It might be safe to turn
>        off this parameter if you have hardware (such as a battery-backed
>        disk controller) or file-system software that reduces the risk
>        of partial page writes to an acceptably low level (e.g., ZFS).

"It might be safe" is a bit of a waffle.  It would be nice if we could
provide some more clear guidance as to whether it is or is not, or how
someone could go about testing their hardware to find out.

-- 
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise Postgres Company



view thread (35+ messages)  latest in thread

reply

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Reply to all the recipients using the --to and --cc options:
  reply via email

  To: [email protected]
  Cc: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
  Subject: Re: no universally correct setting for fsync
  In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

This inbox is served by agora; see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox