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To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
Cc: Postgres Documentation <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Would like to contribute a section to docs for 9.3. Where to start?
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 19:09:16 -0700
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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8/15/12 5:33 AM, Chris Travers wrote:
>
>> So here is a very rough draft. I would be interested in feedback as to
>> inaccuracies or omissions. I would like to get the technical side right
>> before going into an editorial phase.
>>
>> Any feedback on the technical side?
>>
>
> [citation needed]
>
> Seriously, if we are trying to justify our use of seemingly standard
> academic terms, we should have some references to where those are defined
> or at least discussed. Otherwise we are just begging the question:
> PostgreSQL is object-relational because we say so.
>
Good point.
I found two interesting resources quickly which seem on point:
http://infolab.usc.edu/csci585/Spring2010/den_ar/ordb.pdf which appears to
be chapter 1 of
http://www.amazon.com/Object-Relational-Database-Development-Plumbers-CD-ROM/dp/0130194603
and
http://db.cs.berkeley.edu/papers/Informix/www.informix.com/informix/corpinfo/zines/whitpprs/illuswp/...
But this doesn't really get us beyond the "because we say so" given the
connection between Informix and PostgreSQL.
It really looks to me like Postges was given the name Object-Relational by
Stonebreaker as a way of saying "here's what I am trying to play around
with" and the databases which describe themselves in these terms seem
either inspired by or forks of Postgres ;-).
Best Wishes,
Chris Travers
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