Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ab9Jp-0007kN-P6 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 16:08:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ab9Jp-0000gV-Bp for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 16:08:09 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ab9JS-0007vq-V0 for pgsql-docs@postgresql.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 16:07:46 +0000 Received: from mail-io0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22d]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ab9JQ-0001YZ-1a for pgsql-docs@postgresql.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 16:07:46 +0000 Received: by mail-io0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id n190so61157543iof.0 for ; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 08:07:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=/IXGA5wKGrRCoK8zkpDKMmFJdIL89Zj0cYmWbnQP70k=; b=RCUD1emHly3Eh72w4yGomi3E6tSHBy0/U9n0KUzu8avb2h7SYnWgtkHYGwgK+yUhTz O8MIpd827AqcpMykJYWrRK53XpwbrhkF0WFM9bUUEWKGemtbc6ARNLxm+IeXDLkGoniH 7F9IVbK5/InYcdPg/eCnJhNGyrfafyT0vMVjq3KK7Tr9vVZr6ES7XKzHCYoN/T/ACEpD LILig3WyTmDwvs84wC3E9RkvcEaurG1BH1JOGoA6iBaMjHTMaLzYPM+pgyeRBtC7Z8nG xX+id4Co22Y7teld0SIBhbXlT3u4uejhG8h4eG/8v4cV2LxdmlRm+OYtm5551P+THZ+j AyZg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=/IXGA5wKGrRCoK8zkpDKMmFJdIL89Zj0cYmWbnQP70k=; b=VM5t2iwRlem1nMU2cmYzPtIJP4WQk3kx8KAp6rjRLzCQXsFKzYuBms4cURFgSN67Zy 7T9x6t8l6vfOvJeft+jv+y58ajHyuOE5YT45NQFX4US5/pgxQHkAtmvd34p/QPXhPtKR RpHd5rh1JOrfvV+78dcRes3TgPyvxt5ympIIZIW9OT8Oy9UF2bUjC7CCFYHWl9qRW/Jd QR2JPqbJdmey8GR4D8uUqK/v6ZdGZ0Oajsas73tGhJkrC4Xso51RB+NUPVSN3+KvS+s2 EnhShRYtz7unnxXFVGFlhez9hIfFhg7xqVTnJy4tuuNrnXJaiRohGKEy0MqOkPSBdggn Lu1g== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOTt73q332MAo6woyrdm0zJxRwgwlU4NbnfQuRXrDHDX6JIgsNmnVvg07bVMfRF22SRquTJpcaQnycwxAA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.164.225 with SMTP id d94mr31199824ioj.187.1456934862574; Wed, 02 Mar 2016 08:07:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.51.204 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Mar 2016 08:07:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <14897.1456930271@sss.pgh.pa.us> References: <14672.1456929392@sss.pgh.pa.us> <14897.1456930271@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 09:07:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Getting Started section From: Scott Marlowe To: Tom Lane Cc: Magnus Hagander , Maciek Sakrejda , pgsql-docs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-docs Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-docs-owner@postgresql.org On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 7:51 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > Magnus Hagander writes: >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Tom Lane wrote: >>> Agreed, but I should think that properly packaged versions of Postgres >>> will come with some package-specific instructions. Is that missing >>> in Debian's version, or out of date, or did he just not read it? > >> It's definitely there for debian - it's in >> /usr/share/doc/postgresql-common/README.Debian.gz > >> The bigger question is, is it worth actually more or less importing the >> contents of that into our main documentation. > > I'm definitely -1 on that; there are too many distinct packagings and they > change asynchronously to our releases. As a concrete example, the docs > for Red Hat's version needed to change when they moved from SysV init > scripts to systemd boot. Would we want to keep *both* versions of that > in our manual, and explain exactly which RHEL/CentOS/Fedora versions the > different texts applied to? No thanks ... Would it be reasonable to just make it very clear the getting started instructions are meant for install from source, and if you are using a package, you should consult with your distribution? -- Sent via pgsql-docs mailing list (pgsql-docs@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-docs