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@ 2023-06-20 07:36 PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org>
2023-06-21 23:21 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
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From: PG Doc comments form @ 2023-06-20 07:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; +Cc: pbaumard@gmail.com
The following documentation comment has been logged on the website:
Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/15/history.html
Description:
Hi,
In https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/history.html it is written "With
over two decades of development behind it".
But since "The implementation of POSTGRES began in 1986" according to the
same document, it should now be "With over three decades of development
behind it".
Regards,
Pierre
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@ 2023-06-21 23:21 ` Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2023-06-22 20:47 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2023-06-21 23:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pbaumard@gmail.com; pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 07:36:46AM +0000, PG Doc comments form wrote:
> The following documentation comment has been logged on the website:
>
> Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/15/history.html
> Description:
>
> Hi,
>
> In https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/history.html it is written "With
> over two decades of development behind it".
> But since "The implementation of POSTGRES began in 1986" according to the
> same document, it should now be "With over three decades of development
> behind it".
You are _totally_ correct. Attached patch applied back to PG 11. Seems
we will need to change this to "four" in a few years too.
--
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us
EDB https://enterprisedb.com
Only you can decide what is important to you.
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Author: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Date: Wed Jun 21 19:20:07 2023 -0400
doc: update PG history as over "three decades"
Reported-by: Pierre <pbaumard@gmail.com>
Discussion: https://postgr.es/m/168724660637.399156.7642965215720120947@wrigleys.postgresql.org
Backpatch-through: 11
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/history.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/history.sgml
index 5273c47580..c867a10d17 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/history.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/history.sgml
@@ -12,7 +12,7 @@
The object-relational database management system now known as
<productname>PostgreSQL</productname> is derived from the
<productname>POSTGRES</productname> package written at the
- University of California at Berkeley. With over two decades of
+ University of California at Berkeley. With over three decades of
development behind it, <productname>PostgreSQL</productname> is now
the most advanced open-source database available anywhere.
</para>
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* Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history
2023-06-20 07:36 Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org>
2023-06-21 23:21 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
@ 2023-06-22 20:47 ` Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>
2023-06-22 21:00 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
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From: Kirk Parker @ 2023-06-22 20:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>; +Cc: pbaumard@gmail.com; pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org
> > The following documentation comment has been logged on the website:
> >
> > Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/15/history.html
> > Description:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > In https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/history.html it is written
> "With
> > over two decades of development behind it".
> > But since "The implementation of POSTGRES began in 1986" according to the
> > same document, it should now be "With over three decades of development
> > behind it".
>
> You are _totally_ correct. Attached patch applied back to PG 11. Seems
> we will need to change this to "four" in a few years too.
>
> I don't suppose DocBook has macro and system-variable capabilities? That
could provide a set-and-forget solution to this?
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2023-06-20 07:36 Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org>
2023-06-21 23:21 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2023-06-22 20:47 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>
@ 2023-06-22 21:00 ` Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2023-06-23 01:17 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Erik Wienhold <ewie@ewie.name>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2023-06-22 21:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>; +Cc: pbaumard@gmail.com; pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 01:47:16PM -0700, Kirk Parker wrote:
> > The following documentation comment has been logged on the website:
> >
> > Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/15/history.html
> > Description:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > In https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/history.html it is written
> "With
> > over two decades of development behind it".
> > But since "The implementation of POSTGRES began in 1986" according to the
> > same document, it should now be "With over three decades of development
> > behind it".
>
> You are _totally_ correct. Attached patch applied back to PG 11. Seems
> we will need to change this to "four" in a few years too.
>
>
> I don't suppose DocBook has macro and system-variable capabilities? That could
> provide a set-and-forget solution to this?
Uh, I am not aware of any.
--
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EDB https://enterprisedb.com
Only you can decide what is important to you.
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2023-06-20 07:36 Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org>
2023-06-21 23:21 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2023-06-22 20:47 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>
2023-06-22 21:00 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
@ 2023-06-23 01:17 ` Erik Wienhold <ewie@ewie.name>
2023-06-23 01:22 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
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From: Erik Wienhold @ 2023-06-23 01:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>; Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>; +Cc: pbaumard@gmail.com; pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org
> On 22/06/2023 23:00 CEST Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 01:47:16PM -0700, Kirk Parker wrote:
> >
> > I don't suppose DocBook has macro and system-variable capabilities? That
> > could provide a set-and-forget solution to this?
>
> Uh, I am not aware of any.
An SGML entity [0] or an xsltproc stringparam [1] looks viable. Question is
how to calculate the number of decades in the Makefile. It's trivial in SQL :)
=# select extract(decade from now()) - extract(decade from date '1986-01-01');
?column?
----------
4
(1 row)
=# select extract(day from now() - date '1986-01-01') / 365.25 / 10;
?column?
--------------------
3.7472963723477071
(1 row)
[0] https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=postgresql.git;a=blob;f=doc/src/sgml/Makefile;h=71cbef230f34a6a...
[1] https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=postgresql.git;a=blob;f=doc/src/sgml/Makefile;h=71cbef230f34a6a...
--
Erik
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2023-06-20 07:36 Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org>
2023-06-21 23:21 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2023-06-22 20:47 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>
2023-06-22 21:00 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2023-06-23 01:17 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Erik Wienhold <ewie@ewie.name>
@ 2023-06-23 01:22 ` Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
2023-06-23 01:23 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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From: Michael Paquier @ 2023-06-23 01:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Erik Wienhold <ewie@ewie.name>; +Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>; Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>; pbaumard@gmail.com; pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 03:17:26AM +0200, Erik Wienhold wrote:
> An SGML entity [0] or an xsltproc stringparam [1] looks viable. Question is
> how to calculate the number of decades in the Makefile. It's trivial in SQL :)
- University of California at Berkeley. With over two decades of
+ University of California at Berkeley. With over three decades of
development behind it, <productname>PostgreSQL</productname> is now
the most advanced open-source database available anywhere.
Seeing what has been committed, I don't think that such complications
are necessary if this sentence is reworded without numbers. For
instance:
"With multiple decades of development behind it, PostgreSQL.."
My 2c.
--
Michael
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2023-06-20 07:36 Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org>
2023-06-21 23:21 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2023-06-22 20:47 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>
2023-06-22 21:00 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2023-06-23 01:17 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Erik Wienhold <ewie@ewie.name>
2023-06-23 01:22 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
@ 2023-06-23 01:23 ` Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
2023-06-23 02:01 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org>
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From: Tom Lane @ 2023-06-23 01:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>; +Cc: Erik Wienhold <ewie@ewie.name>; Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>; Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>; pbaumard@gmail.com; pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org
Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> writes:
> "With multiple decades of development behind it, PostgreSQL.."
+1. It sure seems silly trying to automate changing this.
regards, tom lane
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2023-06-20 07:36 Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org>
2023-06-21 23:21 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2023-06-22 20:47 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>
2023-06-22 21:00 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2023-06-23 01:17 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Erik Wienhold <ewie@ewie.name>
2023-06-23 01:22 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
2023-06-23 01:23 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
@ 2023-06-23 02:01 ` Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org>
2023-06-24 02:50 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
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From: Jonathan S. Katz @ 2023-06-23 02:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>; +Cc: Erik Wienhold <ewie@ewie.name>; Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>; Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>; pbaumard@gmail.com; pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org
On 6/22/23 9:23 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> writes:
>> "With multiple decades of development behind it, PostgreSQL.."
>
> +1. It sure seems silly trying to automate changing this.
+1. With the proposed language, we can revisit it once it gets to
"centuries."
Jonathan
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2023-06-21 23:21 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2023-06-22 20:47 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>
2023-06-22 21:00 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2023-06-23 01:17 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Erik Wienhold <ewie@ewie.name>
2023-06-23 01:22 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
2023-06-23 01:23 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
2023-06-23 02:01 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org>
@ 2023-06-24 02:50 ` Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2023-06-24 11:16 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
2023-06-24 17:27 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Pantelis Theodosiou <ypercube@gmail.com>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2023-06-24 02:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org>; +Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>; Erik Wienhold <ewie@ewie.name>; Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>; pbaumard@gmail.com; pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 10:01:45PM -0400, Jonathan Katz wrote:
> On 6/22/23 9:23 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> writes:
> > > "With multiple decades of development behind it, PostgreSQL.."
> >
> > +1. It sure seems silly trying to automate changing this.
>
> +1. With the proposed language, we can revisit it once it gets to
> "centuries."
Applied patch is "With decades of development".
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EDB https://enterprisedb.com
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2023-06-20 07:36 Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org>
2023-06-21 23:21 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2023-06-22 20:47 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>
2023-06-22 21:00 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2023-06-23 01:17 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Erik Wienhold <ewie@ewie.name>
2023-06-23 01:22 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
2023-06-23 01:23 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
2023-06-23 02:01 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org>
2023-06-24 02:50 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
@ 2023-06-24 11:16 ` Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
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From: Michael Paquier @ 2023-06-24 11:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>; +Cc: Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org>; Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; Erik Wienhold <ewie@ewie.name>; Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>; pbaumard@gmail.com; pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 10:50:20PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Applied patch is "With decades of development".
Thanks.
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2023-06-21 23:21 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2023-06-22 20:47 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>
2023-06-22 21:00 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
2023-06-23 01:17 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Erik Wienhold <ewie@ewie.name>
2023-06-23 01:22 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
2023-06-23 01:23 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
2023-06-23 02:01 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org>
2023-06-24 02:50 ` Re: Change "two" to "three" for decades of development in history Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
@ 2023-06-24 17:27 ` Pantelis Theodosiou <ypercube@gmail.com>
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From: Pantelis Theodosiou @ 2023-06-24 17:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>; +Cc: Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org>; Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>; Erik Wienhold <ewie@ewie.name>; Kirk Parker <khp@equatoria.us>; pbaumard@gmail.com; pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org
On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 3:50 AM Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 10:01:45PM -0400, Jonathan Katz wrote:
> > On 6/22/23 9:23 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> > > Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> writes:
> > > > "With multiple decades of development behind it, PostgreSQL.."
> > >
> > > +1. It sure seems silly trying to automate changing this.
> >
> > +1. With the proposed language, we can revisit it once it gets to
> > "centuries."
>
> Applied patch is "With decades of development".
>
+10 :)
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