Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qqIPF-0097Mf-90 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 19:28:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qqIPD-009Y4C-7i for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 19:28:36 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qqIPC-009Y3z-VH for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 19:28:35 +0000 Received: from momjian.us ([72.94.173.45]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qqIPB-001L2n-CH for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 19:28:35 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=momjian.us; s=2023062407; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=ZtnS2osJge8Obpszig1RM1QTfIsna6fMiLGWkpILDO4=; b=V0QFJZ7i7/gIdHGDwduaFWVHgq aCCmKN26ikHG+suY2kOWFfXpq96Gd1SrtOT/HhVnEJn3k1qCL/nKkhFg8V28Ip7MmEzkYc9Ij3VXp +DAcO6euU/OqIAj6Fde7keXcFnGaK/uUbeRtz3Z/fc34pcDehpN8ALSFZIgpfbnQ0G0fqjA18G3Hs E0GIjcT3hsJ5fPI8AScdvl7eueNfhO6o6dwfy8FAQemqNlZQaIM6+CTgztK1qWcbmR91tnjVbv4/C Hp8gTwQhNhfkqTGvacvnlElgLcmDQzD1oaUoHXz/JgsHGCXx7CfCzC+ZH4BeMg963DIQdS+UGYQ9D hHqsyi1Q==; Received: from bruce by momjian.us with local (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1qqIP9-001KMM-2G; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 15:28:31 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 15:28:31 -0400 From: Bruce Momjian To: maja zaloznik Cc: Tom Lane , "David G. Johnston" , pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: Seeming contradiction in 22.1 Message-ID: References: <167931662853.3349090.18217722739345182859@wrigleys.postgresql.org> <1821386.1679584161@sss.pgh.pa.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 06:11:44PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 05:45:03PM +0100, maja zaloznik wrote: > > Thanks David, thisĀ is very helpful! > > > > I would have to agree with Tom, that while technically true, the text could be > > reworded. namely it was not obvious to me that i had used a 'packager' to > > install the clusters and therefore was doing something outside the purview of > > the postgres documentation. > > > > To me the last sentence would be clearer if it read something like: > > > > "Most packagers will name this role `postgres` by default, but this is not > > required". > > > > That way it avoids the passive tense which leaves some ambiguity as to who or > > what and when is naming this superuser. > > I think the paragraph was trying to do too much so I simplified it, > patch attached. Patch applied to PG 16. I didn't go further because this is only a clarification, rather than missing or incorrect information, and the patch didn't cleanly apply to PG 15. -- Bruce Momjian https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com Only you can decide what is important to you.