Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pKuD0-0003y4-Bz for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 04:49:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pKuCz-0002N3-5U for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 04:49:57 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pKuCy-0002Mt-Q5 for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 04:49:56 +0000 Received: from mail-wm1-x331.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::331]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pKuCs-0005Ix-Mh for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 04:49:56 +0000 Received: by mail-wm1-x331.google.com with SMTP id f25-20020a1c6a19000000b003da221fbf48so361452wmc.1 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2023 20:49:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cybertec-at.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:user-agent:content-transfer-encoding:references :in-reply-to:date:cc:to:from:subject:message-id:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Gc1fPZDJQTSd/U1dCbf0eUvCSB8MG82ucbkon5JxRk4=; b=1cu3skz9Ge81jvba4HR/oW0mjuhfmT9OJLtKtqKa/dAEaGPlq1OjzwsL+8n/Bk6+9f tllzidCuG/QFd+h7Zi383ZDgM5UwIXkSQX4l9YqjTatq6J1vMatrmsfT9IyPqiU2edoL z8UZxXPWDX2c4fXab5Tx8/Y22YaorMLMjVoHJ25uRnjh+TfUG/RTWlVITcHT6Ro30Smf b53Lo3dGYDQMa7L7ZNlD9B1sq6n+1sim6mDp1NZv55UqBQfJEdfcGNRclWSgscpa3DdH mnpux+YCgSMlkOkxsCJVrWDCcBBy0VQdFK3RwbRON9Y3NA4U05922o0SNYwiExg8AI4a X8RA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=mime-version:user-agent:content-transfer-encoding:references :in-reply-to:date:cc:to:from:subject:message-id:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Gc1fPZDJQTSd/U1dCbf0eUvCSB8MG82ucbkon5JxRk4=; b=k8l5BxTKOSve+tLz9G3NYnOU6phHdq8eixbAeSkLsYyl4LtXQ+oZ6sjIO4bbNzy6/u ooDvaKw6+ZqpazeWeQJloxfxJMENllDrQq4KIKFP+1Fix86wvl13dmBAIn2VxgeONwdw RePK2vc6OSbUQbcaobqjePpWSKUyH0FLtk4ZKeXDjK5VcNrcEI7sVVcmey3SykcZOAD6 9XaGMoxniJD/3eo2Kg7lv6uUX3VZh61A3IMeHvKQcRRQIx1dBOq+kFCHzs3LSmrAJQTy le8GEhjzCxIi/7evSUj8ljF/SOBeCqcpnRff45f63ixk6/C1jwZkqOlRQN4gMw9MMNsI ns/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kotc+Od3GDTJVtLIcD7g/7W/MnlTd39mzTc5SdNMh/Mkk5XP2Xb gSG2vovOmedxEJsUVBpQspLQPQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXtZ+lYZ/zGKak8ZYA2ATpBQ/ReDUnVH0EG8AmckWdmdywSmKmDJ/GoRHgwd0b+PNyOv+qOeeA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:3b05:b0:3d6:b691:b80d with SMTP id m5-20020a05600c3b0500b003d6b691b80dmr34411941wms.21.1674708589240; Wed, 25 Jan 2023 20:49:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (business-24-134-51-225.pool2.vodafone-ip.de. [24.134.51.225]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x12-20020a05600c2d0c00b003db15b1fb3csm345503wmf.13.2023.01.25.20.49.47 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 25 Jan 2023 20:49:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Subject: Re: Not an error but a difficult wording From: Laurenz Albe To: Tom Lane Cc: riivo.kolka@gmail.com, pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 05:49:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: <2873117.1674697141@sss.pgh.pa.us> References: <167463493588.2667301.13267758265445155872@wrigleys.postgresql.org> <2873117.1674697141@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.46.3 (3.46.3-1.fc37) MIME-Version: 1.0 List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Wed, 2023-01-25 at 20:39 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > Laurenz Albe writes: > > On Wed, 2023-01-25 at 08:22 +0000, PG Doc comments form wrote: > > > Maybe this would be better? (I don't know the comma rules) > > > "because the files(,?) that are generated/processed by these tools(,?= ) are > > > already included in the tarball" >=20 > > +1 >=20 > > Correct English would be: >=20 > > =C2=A0 These tools are not needed to build from a distribution tarball,= because > > =C2=A0 the files generated by these tools are included in the tarball. >=20 > The existing wording is not incorrect AFAICS, but I agree it's a bit > awkward. I meant "a correct version of what was suggested in the mail", not that the released text was incorrect. > I'd modify one word in your version: >=20 > =C2=A0 These tools are not needed to build from a distribution tarball, b= ecause > =C2=A0 the files generated using these tools are included in the tarball. >=20 > Or possibly "with" instead of "using"? Both are better; I'd lean towards "with". Yours, Laurenz Albe