Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dco5M-0002vn-M3 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2017 07:28:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dco5K-0005dA-L7 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2017 07:28:50 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dco5J-0005cy-82 for pgsql-docs@postgresql.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2017 07:28:49 +0000 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([217.72.192.75]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dco5F-0003NL-Rw for pgsql-docs@postgresql.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2017 07:28:48 +0000 Received: from [192.168.188.21] ([89.13.190.83]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue101 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MEmRm-1dsh3B2MCA-00G03h for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2017 09:28:43 +0200 Subject: Re: Use of term Master/Slave To: pgsql-docs@postgresql.org References: <20170731211348.1449.52678@wrigleys.postgresql.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=bcrgen_Purtz?= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 09:28:20 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:RtwS5i/uzAvCSpzEvyKqg9eIV7K30cSaPzEqIykmDOhj2koGHsq NrCdu7Y19b0j402woWp8KpydCgEJSEijVEz1SZUFzNM6xVVa29NHDhh7P08yYpj4Kp1vdX4 gdludpqkVAF2B4kvNUSCP3JkMX3iuehMU+uzWHM4P1L11WotQVdPq59cihf+X1OxdrBm6Zt vxoSzzAxOjrnLnBA8a3LQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:I6LYdi0JF7A=:4KOITs5DC2hs/M4ZXD+uwM vTlIj458XV2LLd/yrFJJ8/yWwyfjWga/ha+jB7Zd4XyR2mWmD0KcGqxwbs4yU1iyaCWedA7hr 75Ez9/QS4GWD+aMnPehSXSQvMLj80ySxMYbc70CTaQfwbw9vSfwtwXcZfnJjrqRLyLs2Ngd7v dcpRy3B8OmS7euKz1aDAHjJ03HZ37rTYeDDvTtY9z320xgbbILn1T1CWVoNzH41IRuUcvRgfU V0wIgSd6RWmbRNLmG7He+4wlcIvdsncikFlRWQAL4Dc6eIgDd5gLXK/NUSEmPlZi/mIh3EEqE ie+W3vt/sQ/vRXW0cmSdfucFc/Q9rOjs0qOYFJPmxXMjIhIBNleHmsOGe+768jeKopkzFYfVp rltxHwznyJIyH0V05zs74Eqqg5Nnn+mx4B6wodFz0FciAYycFusT9fCIcYvL8RDIAl2CZ8V55 kYHE/X83dSLZb9fZoBWEeDBx8NFQf5eiIMIrZw/Am3MXjefsy4qXM0HbZveYOkqqTzAK9swgV SE7S+GhoFuuRk8VfGDXoESkCnHOfNAfZDHhwu7rKpmMAQQpLUOrg2RpBU9LoF/XTVEzHGdwd9 +5VRh5pOR5A9tXlEvYlBvmiJNpH3N5pEAMD2CL54eg/h270nBczHPOnqRJizUr0gc8VAvDOTG 9mXHDjp9Smt+9yaE6F66bbJCk6AcfbdAQBVCkVnEY420xY9HSTyP9YkFJASPn3PBDZRIGfUwm OPAW9OJSCnZlw+pZRv383og7V1FYgpH2/AeKhk6XWc+uk29VudFSuGoECrw= List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-docs Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-docs-owner@postgresql.org On 01.08.2017 21:41, Simon Riggs wrote: > Do you think primary/secondary is more descriptive? > > I started using the terms Primary and Secondary in the original use, > but I think we've moved away from that towards Master/Standby, which > fits better with a world where "muti-master" is a frequently used term > and an eventual goal in core. Multi-primary doesn't seem to make much > sense. We are not only missing a consensus about the terms noted here. There is a bunch of terms where it is unclear which one is the 'official' or 'preferred' one. Two additional examples: WAL / transaction logfile / XLOG file / log segment file / WAL segment file Log record / log entry And there is a second problem: We have a common understanding of terms like "cluster" or "database". But people coming from other DBMS may have a different understanding. A new PG user easily gets lost in the "term-jungle" used in our documentation, in PG related books, blogs, and training material. My proposal is to add an additional appendix to our documentation, where fundamental terms and there meaning for the PG community are defined in short and clear words (after we have found a consensus about them). Jürgen Purtz -- Sent via pgsql-docs mailing list (pgsql-docs@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-docs