Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1wVEQY-001o00-2u for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2026 20:12:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1wVEQX-008Zd5-23 for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2026 20:12:29 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1wVEQX-008Zcx-1J for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2026 20:12:29 +0000 Received: from momjian.us ([72.94.173.45]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1wVEQV-000000017on-2yK6 for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2026 20:12:28 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=momjian.us; s=2026010100; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description; bh=sB59FO39lIyHfFqNpukv+RwXr/zwnAPA2NDmrM1HZqI=; b=4tbBg 4Jryk4Py6a1bxNQwqwCgXhzBn0tTknNie/sSdLLa/CKYQ5yyugFAC9lyEzAX4oshWeR1AsJUdBwOy ORKcelD0ucC+BLzAoR6hBE+4ndI9oZADNQ3YjWNBmdZEFOmiUfjjvEcCOlOX4U4PZEtBbNBIVuHuV Wii96oRrIPq9d+Sdk6994029fMJPo8SXNQpopTqT0/JsSuFX+JQuxKCIC/kQsWmV611sfioao7p84 5xrctWCiWMkNOxyCLSOvzM9lxMgP7QSbxHBFhsaggNQ1xGlLthaqIHWkfDSE92EOEWgxnEbNUHEqa jYAE8osGvcWmofOCWX7JKso97DoPw==; Received: from bruce by momjian.us with local (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1wVEQU-00000006Hht-2N4r; Thu, 04 Jun 2026 16:12:26 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2026 16:12:26 -0400 From: Bruce Momjian To: Daniel Gustafsson Cc: PostgreSQL-documentation Subject: Re: pg_checksums docs mentioning online functions Message-ID: References: <3E59EA84-E150-468A-A316-FC99A009D235@yesql.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E59EA84-E150-468A-A316-FC99A009D235@yesql.se> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Thu, Jun 4, 2026 at 09:18:34PM +0200, Daniel Gustafsson wrote: > > On 4 Jun 2026, at 20:55, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > Looking at the pg_checksums docs, it says: > > > > pg_checksums checks, enables or disables data checksums in a > > PostgreSQL cluster. The server must be shut down cleanly before > > running pg_checksums. > > > > Do we want to mention the new functions here that can change the > > checksum status without being shut down? > > Not sure, but perhaps a link back to the main data checksums section (which > documents the online operation among other things) would be in order? > Something like: > > --- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_checksums.sgml > +++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_checksums.sgml > @@ -57,6 +57,10 @@ PostgreSQL documentation > rewritten in-place. > Disabling checksums only updates the file pg_control. > > + > + > + For more information on data checksums, see . > + > My big issue is that we explain the limitation of pg_checksums, but don't point readers at the tool that doesn't have that offline restriction. I think we need that explicitly mentioned, and at the top. -- Bruce Momjian https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com Do not let urgent matters crowd out time for investment in the future.