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* 20.5.1
@ 2024-02-07 16:05 PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org>
  2024-02-07 16:59 ` Re: 20.5.1 David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
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From: PG Doc comments form @ 2024-02-07 16:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; +Cc: aarnott@hotmail.com

The following documentation comment has been logged on the website:

Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/runtime-config-wal.html
Description:

The sentence in commit_siblings "A larger value makes it more probable that
at least one other transaction will become ready to commit during the delay
interval." seems to belong in commit_delay instead.


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* Re: 20.5.1
  2024-02-07 16:05 20.5.1 PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org>
@ 2024-02-07 16:59 ` David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
  2024-02-07 20:10   ` Re: 20.5.1 Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread

From: David G. Johnston @ 2024-02-07 16:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: aarnott@hotmail.com <aarnott@hotmail.com>; pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org <pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org>

On Wednesday, February 7, 2024, PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org>
wrote:

> The following documentation comment has been logged on the website:
>
> Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/runtime-config-wal.html
> Description:
>
> The sentence in commit_siblings "A larger value makes it more probable that
> at least one other transaction will become ready to commit during the delay
> interval." seems to belong in commit_delay instead.
>

That sentence in that location is correct.  See “birthday paradox”.

Maybe phrasing it in the negative will make things clear - the more
required sessions needed before allowing a delay the less likely the delay
will be wasted.

David J.

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* Re: 20.5.1
  2024-02-07 16:05 20.5.1 PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org>
  2024-02-07 16:59 ` Re: 20.5.1 David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
@ 2024-02-07 20:10   ` Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread

From: Laurenz Albe @ 2024-02-07 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>; aarnott@hotmail.com <aarnott@hotmail.com>; pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org <pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org>

On Wed, 2024-02-07 at 09:59 -0700, David G. Johnston wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 7, 2024, PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org> wrote:
> > The following documentation comment has been logged on the website:
> > 
> > Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/runtime-config-wal.html
> > Description:
> > 
> > The sentence in commit_siblings "A larger value makes it more probable that
> > at least one other transaction will become ready to commit during the delay
> > interval." seems to belong in commit_delay instead.
> > 
> 
> That sentence in that location is correct.  See “birthday paradox”.

To be more precise: if 15 other transactions are currently running, there
is a bigger chance that at least one of them will want to flush WAL before
"commit_delay" has expired than if there are only 3 other transactions.

Yours,
Laurenz Albe





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