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* Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes
@ 2019-12-29 23:03 Vik Fearing <[email protected]>
2020-01-03 08:57 ` Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
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From: Vik Fearing @ 2019-12-29 23:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: [email protected]
Following a complaint on IRC about the dearth of information on how to
migrate to a new major version in the release notes, the attached
trivial patch was determined to be sufficient for the OP.
This patch applies to REL_12_STABLE. I don't know how far it should be
backpatched (the OP was trying to upgrade to v10), and I didn't see any
place to put it for 13 and future versions.
--
Vik Fearing
Attachments:
[text/x-patch] link_to_upgrading.0001.patch (570B, 2-link_to_upgrading.0001.patch)
download | inline diff:
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/release-12.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/release-12.sgml
index dfa3851913..62cdbba2d5 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/release-12.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/release-12.sgml
@@ -1216,6 +1216,8 @@ Branch: REL9_4_STABLE [8f8809091] 2019-10-04 15:38:36 -0400
A dump/restore using <xref linkend="app-pg-dumpall"/>, or use of <xref
linkend="pgupgrade"/>, is required for those wishing to migrate data
from any previous release.
+ See <xref linkend="upgrading"/> for general information on migrating to
+ new major releases.
</para>
<para>
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* Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes
2019-12-29 23:03 Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes Vik Fearing <[email protected]>
@ 2020-01-03 08:57 ` Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2020-01-03 10:00 ` Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
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From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2020-01-03 08:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vik Fearing <[email protected]>; [email protected]
On 2019-12-30 00:03, Vik Fearing wrote:
> Following a complaint on IRC about the dearth of information on how to
> migrate to a new major version in the release notes, the attached
> trivial patch was determined to be sufficient for the OP.
>
> This patch applies to REL_12_STABLE. I don't know how far it should be
> backpatched (the OP was trying to upgrade to v10), and I didn't see any
> place to put it for 13 and future versions.
I think this change is sensible. But to what extent do we want to edit
around in old release notes? Should we just keep it for PG13?
I think we should also extend the blurb in the release notes to mention
the option of using logical replication to upgrade. Otherwise, if you
follow the link you propose, then one might think that logical
replication upgrading is not applicable since only pg_dump and
pg_upgrade were mentioned in the place the link came from.
--
Peter Eisentraut http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
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* Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes
2019-12-29 23:03 Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes Vik Fearing <[email protected]>
2020-01-03 08:57 ` Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
@ 2020-01-03 10:00 ` Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
2020-01-09 15:19 ` Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Magnus Hagander @ 2020-01-03 10:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: Vik Fearing <[email protected]>; Pg Docs <[email protected]>
On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:57 AM Peter Eisentraut <
[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2019-12-30 00:03, Vik Fearing wrote:
> > Following a complaint on IRC about the dearth of information on how to
> > migrate to a new major version in the release notes, the attached
> > trivial patch was determined to be sufficient for the OP.
> >
> > This patch applies to REL_12_STABLE. I don't know how far it should be
> > backpatched (the OP was trying to upgrade to v10), and I didn't see any
> > place to put it for 13 and future versions.
>
> I think this change is sensible. But to what extent do we want to edit
> around in old release notes? Should we just keep it for PG13?
>
I think it makes sense to backpatch it. Lots of people still upgrade to at
least 12 and 11, and that's a likely place for them to start reading. And
if we're already covering 12 and 11, it is probably no big extra effort to
do other supported branches as well.
I think we should also extend the blurb in the release notes to mention
> the option of using logical replication to upgrade. Otherwise, if you
> follow the link you propose, then one might think that logical
> replication upgrading is not applicable since only pg_dump and
> pg_upgrade were mentioned in the place the link came from.
>
>
+1.
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Magnus Hagander
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* Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes
2019-12-29 23:03 Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes Vik Fearing <[email protected]>
2020-01-03 08:57 ` Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2020-01-03 10:00 ` Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
@ 2020-01-09 15:19 ` Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2020-01-09 18:22 ` Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes Vik Fearing <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2020-01-09 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; +Cc: Vik Fearing <[email protected]>; Pg Docs <[email protected]>
On 2020-01-03 11:00, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On 2019-12-30 00:03, Vik Fearing wrote:
> > Following a complaint on IRC about the dearth of information on
> how to
> > migrate to a new major version in the release notes, the attached
> > trivial patch was determined to be sufficient for the OP.
> >
> > This patch applies to REL_12_STABLE. I don't know how far it
> should be
> > backpatched (the OP was trying to upgrade to v10), and I didn't
> see any
> > place to put it for 13 and future versions.
>
> I think this change is sensible. But to what extent do we want to edit
> around in old release notes? Should we just keep it for PG13?
>
>
> I think it makes sense to backpatch it. Lots of people still upgrade to
> at least 12 and 11, and that's a likely place for them to start reading.
> And if we're already covering 12 and 11, it is probably no big extra
> effort to do other supported branches as well.
Committed to 12, 11, 10. After that the patch didn't apply anymore and
nobody should be upgrading to that anyway.
--
Peter Eisentraut http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
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* Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes
2019-12-29 23:03 Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes Vik Fearing <[email protected]>
2020-01-03 08:57 ` Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
2020-01-03 10:00 ` Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>
2020-01-09 15:19 ` Re: Link to "Upgrading a PostgreSQL Cluster" in Release Notes Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
@ 2020-01-09 18:22 ` Vik Fearing <[email protected]>
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From: Vik Fearing @ 2020-01-09 18:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; Magnus Hagander <[email protected]>; +Cc: Pg Docs <[email protected]>
On 09/01/2020 16:19, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On 2020-01-03 11:00, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>> On 2019-12-30 00:03, Vik Fearing wrote:
>> > Following a complaint on IRC about the dearth of information on
>> how to
>> > migrate to a new major version in the release notes, the attached
>> > trivial patch was determined to be sufficient for the OP.
>> >
>> > This patch applies to REL_12_STABLE. I don't know how far it
>> should be
>> > backpatched (the OP was trying to upgrade to v10), and I didn't
>> see any
>> > place to put it for 13 and future versions.
>>
>> I think this change is sensible. But to what extent do we want
>> to edit
>> around in old release notes? Should we just keep it for PG13?
>>
>>
>> I think it makes sense to backpatch it. Lots of people still upgrade
>> to at least 12 and 11, and that's a likely place for them to start
>> reading. And if we're already covering 12 and 11, it is probably no
>> big extra effort to do other supported branches as well.
>
> Committed to 12, 11, 10. After that the patch didn't apply anymore
> and nobody should be upgrading to that anyway.
>
Thanks! And thanks for adding the logical replication text, too.
--
Vik Fearing
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