Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iAet7-0005Fn-2K for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 18:41:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iAet5-00089t-Tm for pgsql-general@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 18:41:11 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iAet5-00089h-KG for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 18:41:11 +0000 Received: from wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.20]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iAet3-0006BB-4R for pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 18:41:11 +0000 Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD21F412; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 14:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 18 Sep 2019 14:41:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aklaver.com; h= subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=fm1; bh=u xOw4H7IO0QCAGEfYdgTlLAIa/LZP+fJFh+MOACg7Jo=; b=g6RZcMtICVav1B750 2FPvNRvDV1iA8Au/po/L4iWVz0asr6oiAFxwxPHaAYHlcrp0EYkB5WfF0+YXFGZP 42ZTcedWchzl8GpVlyFhHYBmM5uKq0jg6kjVVTqzgR4DqDaRud/X1+mtfVNwgYZG FfyXLuOv1gq75N4gz22LwhSz1L3G2s2Ko3si+SUqvrLY7nF4+YTJ8k4AOQNG+uTv SY/fGm1h+LiKxKKMKUklf3B4mQZLjxNeWVEXmgrudNC/6ps9MwLpvS8EXr8YRWtJ PKXMsJ0dg8Me2zjN5ACdeuO/35+iSaM/LBUII6+aFmj3EiABR3wDYua0OjEQiPi4 UoIfg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=uxOw4H7IO0QCAGEfYdgTlLAIa/LZP+fJFh+MOACg7 Jo=; b=03ZAPPJoh2YkIeoGod7wVw7vK3ZgbhHj8geft6jtGrJ/LCa0aBOjwROth WTdT/h4iz7VU8SoyCq8yqdhvjxehdqGMmH2lCzNSfB0rJDhlYRE8ahs5S9azVnj7 uqcRRL0NAyeEfdjvv6WR5LAhjxnunBO5kZcZ5Zc3dUEBYtkN1iD9/Aa0E2XAZVCQ 0NEBW7OZu3zZa3UJPaCEg8F+adO5fA7D87pOiPWkGmXOkGhroDrfZXLp81WiDd8r ShYDgZcE2pgVTE56OpesitKFw9yGRRpwTCrMEkPUjkUrLmV2uwNQCbEs1lvg3FQI jTL0yKKAcVCTUl04ubPz6yAcJnfbw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedrudekgdduvdejucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepuffvfhfhkffffgggjggtgfesthekredttdefjeenucfhrhhomheptegurhhi rghnucfmlhgrvhgvrhcuoegrughrihgrnhdrkhhlrghvvghrsegrkhhlrghvvghrrdgtoh hmqeenucfkphephedtrdduleejrdektddrvdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhep rggurhhirghnrdhklhgrvhgvrhesrghklhgrvhgvrhdrtghomhenucevlhhushhtvghruf hiiigvpedt X-ME-Proxy: Received: from ranger.suse (50-197-80-2-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.197.80.2]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7BFB7D6005A; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 14:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: PostgreSQL License To: Rob Sargent Cc: Ashkar Dev , Laurenz Albe , "pgsql-generallists.postgresql.org" , user.postgresql@gmail.com, vikasmanya1@gmail.com, andreas@visena.com, hjp-pgsql@hjp.at References: <11b26b3d-93d5-ac6b-7c06-aa959d91be5d@aklaver.com> <96C4950E-4157-4BD6-BE04-B4EBEF8F98A4@gmail.com> From: Adrian Klaver Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 11:41:03 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <96C4950E-4157-4BD6-BE04-B4EBEF8F98A4@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 9/18/19 11:23 AM, Rob Sargent wrote: > > >> On Sep 18, 2019, at 12:17 PM, Adrian Klaver wrote: >> >> On 9/18/19 11:06 AM, Rob Sargent wrote: >>> On 9/18/19 11:50 AM, Ashkar Dev wrote: >>>> Hi all thanks, >>>> I meant maybe I create a web app with PostgreSQL that work locally for example for a pharmacy that stores data by barcode while the DB was created by PostgreSQL how I can sell the Database for him, how to deliver the product to him can I sell the package that contains web app files with PostgreSQL software and the database code? >>>> >>> You can charge the pharmacist for your efforts: your web app (license), installing postgres and your schema (somewhere) and the data supporting your web-app, any documentation of your web-app and schema, any maintenance and support you care to specify. You can copy-right your app and schema and data. >>> You cannot (legitimately) charge the pharmacist for any part PostgresQL. >> >> Why not? >> >> Pretty sure that is what third parties are doing with their forks of Postgres. >> > I see your point, but aren’t they in essence charging for their efforts in making, managing their fork. There are plenty of vendors, for a time I was one, who happily apply a schema to which ever database the client supplied (mssql, ora, pg in my case). In general that pretty much applies to a lot of software that has price. You don't actually own the software, just a paid license to use it. I'm not saying whether it is a good idea or not, just that it is possible. -- Adrian Klaver adrian.klaver@aklaver.com