Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGdoH-0001sP-4e for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 07:49:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGdoG-0002jB-1Q for pgsql-docs@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 07:49:28 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGdoF-0002iz-Sd for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 07:49:27 +0000 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.134]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGdoD-0003SE-O8 for pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 07:49:27 +0000 Received: from [192.168.178.43] ([77.180.218.178]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.129]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MmUcL-1kyT5R02dd-00iXe4; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:49:24 +0200 Subject: Re: Additional Chapter for Tutorial To: Peter Eisentraut , pgsql-docs@lists.postgresql.org References: <13c65997-9502-7671-1a7b-50e5d5093514@purtz.de> <40aca6b45b0da614b94c8ef86d89b70b@xs4all.nl> <4b8bdb3b-10a7-e541-18ff-6a556ce89cd1@purtz.de> <9df5b9c8-71fe-47a8-4670-346a0ae7e2cd@purtz.de> <567f7c92-dce9-7424-9022-54b31eb12740@purtz.de> <1B5F7D1E-B389-4D3B-973A-A8D183D8530A@yesql.se> <766cab17c6af48956558611520956b77@xs4all.nl> <93fd8e15-8639-23c8-c7c4-d4cfca323189@purtz.de> From: =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=bcrgen_Purtz?= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:49:23 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:dLVKr721vzaaPpD3YQWRVy731sxyLOfYFhoBVof2y47dwrts05a 31c5u1X7W8/3kI0WZ1RrmH/VL7geyMooy3fNMtIjtRTxN61Sl9RtQxGctIVVyTCqLskyd8p 6Dyz6vIzpHbf7exvsdn5v1x23izzf+RtW0luAdJzonmRlYgjkPo5DYICnp+krHgX6fc9/RH jRIBpkFVyIHTy4Y9gjRAQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:4S0ohlp+HqA=:iLxgqjR6IDOYYg6/fPkIZW aYKFHbQ3+JDmL0oC3K4Ysx10gJbe/4wLKL8sg5HsHGcGd37YR6p2QzHNAPiRftmkz4lQdogsW LA+eQ49r8tSiKyp3GMwWOYbnyci4aYCAxlMCx2/ubQjLKP1JGnbEWYCb1kpq5mWCEOtvxesGH eEYF1jThZ5SF0xpbvAHItHF8T7MXXTJg/7DLZwZ45uIi4Lzoo/OzdBe2ByBO0q9emxBijtHfe OubyZnFNb3JJVU0zHfUs7qmp5tidnkQRHdAPaB2LW1QPjkvAwTS9oeSkc3K9gZooPvTiBJ46r F7HMehsMG6mmWUzS9LLY2l+dkFvm0dSNI9lsRR/7RpmvAjybrIccCnfLBfW1t6LSvor6VnN23 picvUjeJrhx/+9FTCVr+Ub3zsOY9lMEEqJw9YtKU+5A5sBUj4oM+VUAB/w/KUHsoFJz/8iyI1 OhRJ16FpWSvsFlMw93AFT3Z7JrxtR1EB+qSJ73ZJsz++tA0Re7Kf8zSX3FPUJ02zFG56Rq6z6 bkKuMR98amDW7Krn9A1AVroGNR+4L3CIAOZNjnMJmOVcteQRGgyDmssCXk1wIE9uATEuhvSEq kbsEa4vQvgHy58MyNrD1Asgpj82JF2gfFPnZmz59Y5kbvKsjVPx1f14ocYgvUbmnAQ4MawbC9 tvR6mdfE+/iAc99pETIqz9g4Kg4tYQRqRjYydu302SW5YO13nvVW57YQpjsmaMq7u0XBY9cpc 861Mww8RnIzg26HXeirmY/bNhSfrAalOWz3UFQC9DML83i/fEPK6N44jqI48ERvjHXjlUtzXw veIY6cm6iBDeeca9nLBynh0GrbyOvrKbHG5w67kqAhHF68CEdeeDPQBULCmywh4GwvOfVJ9 List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 10.09.20 18:26, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > On 2020-09-02 09:04, Jürgen Purtz wrote: >> On 01.09.20 23:30, Peter Eisentraut wrote: >>> It is mostly advanced low-level information that is irrelevant for >>> someone starting up, >> That applies only to the VACUUM chapter. VACUUM and AUTOVACUUM are >> controlled by a lot of parameters. Therefor the current documentation >> concerning the two mechanism spreads the description across different >> pages (20.4, 25.1, VACUUM command). Because of the structure of our >> documentation that's ok. But we should have a summary page somewhere - >> not necessarily in the tutorial. > > There is probably room for improvement, but the section numbers you > mention are not about VACUUM, AFAICT, so I can't really comment on > what you have in mind. > Because of the additional chapter for the 'tutorial' on my local computer, the numbers increased for me. The regular chapter numbers are 19.4 and 24.1. Sorry for the confusion. In detail: 19.4: parameters to configure the server, especially five parameters 'vacuum_cost_xxx'. 19.10: parameters to configure autovacuum. 19.11: parameters to configure client connections, especially five parameters 'vacuum_xxx' concerning their freeze-behavior. 24.1: explains the general necessity of (auto)vacuum and their strategies. The page about the SQL command VACUUM explains the different options (FULL, FREEZE, ..) and their meaning. -- Jürgen Purtz