Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o8o3Y-00074L-Tk for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 19:17:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o8o3X-0007DE-PT for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 19:17:55 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o8o3X-0007D2-GN for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 19:17:55 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o8o3V-0006Si-FW for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 19:17:55 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 265JHcRQ1997757; Tue, 5 Jul 2022 15:17:38 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Andrew Dunstan cc: Bruce Momjian , "Drouvot, Bertrand" , Andres Freund , Justin Pryzby , Noah Misch , Jason Harvey , Peter Geoghegan , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, "Tharakan, Robins" Subject: Re: [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Re: pg_upgrade can result in early wraparound on databases with high transaction load In-reply-to: <220cb128-4f52-237b-66d8-8dbcd75ead53@dunslane.net> References: <20190615183759.GB239428@rfd.leadboat.com> <20210423234256.hwopuftipdmp3okf@alap3.anarazel.de> <20210424002827.GO7256@telsasoft.com> <20210424010005.fttcfskp3unr4jiu@alap3.anarazel.de> <78bf65ea-517a-51ed-947b-9728a6ace513@amazon.com> <20210727023904.GA19774@momjian.us> <1973418.1657040382@sss.pgh.pa.us> <220cb128-4f52-237b-66d8-8dbcd75ead53@dunslane.net> Comments: In-reply-to Andrew Dunstan message dated "Tue, 05 Jul 2022 14:52:57 -0400" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1997755.1657048658.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2022 15:17:38 -0400 Message-ID: <1997756.1657048658@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Andrew Dunstan writes: > So it's taken us a year to discover the issue :-( Perhaps if we're going > to say we support upgrades back to 9.0 we should have some testing to be > assured we don't break it without knowing like this. I'll see if I can > coax crake to do that - it already tests back to 9.2. Hmm ... could you first look into why 09878cdd4 broke it? I'd supposed that that was just detecting situations we must already have dealt with in order for the pg_upgrade test to work, but crake's not happy. regards, tom lane