Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.184]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BE12E2FFA; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:36:10 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02245-02; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:35:49 -0400 (AST) Received: from svana.org (svana.org [203.190.233.187]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001FE2E2DD2; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:35:01 -0400 (AST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1JKaUP-0007JC-Sv; Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:34:05 +1100 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:34:05 +0100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Simon Riggs Cc: Chander Ganesan , Phillip Smith , 'Dominic Carlucci' , pgsql-general@postgresql.org, pgsql-admin@postgresql.org, carlucci@cae.ca Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Backup Message-ID: <20080131143405.GC21660@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout Mail-Followup-To: Simon Riggs , Chander Ganesan , Phillip Smith , 'Dominic Carlucci' , pgsql-general@postgresql.org, pgsql-admin@postgresql.org, carlucci@cae.ca References: <00a201c85ee9$fbd1ca00$9b0014ac@wbaus090> <1201252875.4257.387.camel@ebony.site> <47A1BD51.3030902@otg-nc.com> <1201786128.4453.287.camel@ebony.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="R+My9LyyhiUvIEro" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1201786128.4453.287.camel@ebony.site> X-PGP-Key-ID: Length=1024; ID=0x6F0B424C X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: 34A8 8EAC F902 8C8D CA72 DCC7 201E DB34 6F0B 424C User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: kleptog@svana.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on svana.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200801/292 X-Sequence-Number: 28066 --R+My9LyyhiUvIEro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 01:28:48PM +0000, Simon Riggs wrote: > That sentence has no place in any discussion about "backup" because the > risk is not just a few transactions, it is a corrupt and inconsistent > database from which both old and new data would be inaccessible. Hmm? I thought the whole point of a filesystem snapshot was that it's the same as if the system crashed. And I was fairly sure we could recover from that... Have a nice day, --=20 Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolutio= n inevitable. > -- John F Kennedy --R+My9LyyhiUvIEro Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHodxdIB7bNG8LQkwRAjuoAJ9aYCfZu+x/fpYBY701c58BR3ZYrgCeN83Z ohVT+p0OLrxDwV8pJvuy4zk= =Dhnl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --R+My9LyyhiUvIEro--