Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iRiH6-0008V0-VC for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2019 19:44:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iRiH5-0007ze-B5 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2019 19:44:27 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iRiH5-0007zX-2f for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2019 19:44:27 +0000 Received: from mail-qt1-x842.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::842]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iRiH2-0007hx-0t for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2019 19:44:26 +0000 Received: by mail-qt1-x842.google.com with SMTP id x21so25691848qto.12 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2019 11:44:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=2ndquadrant-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=Nm1gXNorvCyIKmTK9ngjxe/rKEpvdPWn70+TzwwP4rs=; b=jSfF2yn2rCrSOLF8gDRkfUkdoh8XIjjkUxADk44S79+QA3A2buNynVQrklnFLJMj6h bagDVIKbhME/bYaPaHyLnxNPeJDJct8Sg2zqAKRgcNCo2CZAESpsrVe9iI2azq1BEGql G71cEGuTt3X6nZ4bTvFRQVk9lctkR4yI0igYt3szYp5afbHJpUAVAR088rs72wVjkyio JVuGmaDjCNNBnEG0BdvIF0wlvWrJq1s4+mN1wWjld6C0ArQkRCWN9jfF6Je3nA0yw/nM 1dkHh3WWZ8/Ih8Im2skP9goDDvHJMfZz28ebEVUiZgFXkvhzUcAUoBTItTrCioPT/MGg aTSA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=Nm1gXNorvCyIKmTK9ngjxe/rKEpvdPWn70+TzwwP4rs=; b=h8MdNtcTUufpH1iHYQpVS5ruZ1tKcz40YDAkfgbIyBdQWSwUfmT+p+jrY1evnHzoG8 57ifrejGGV158JFulAHBz7A1SpwcY9GKQscgugVWy833YulBsUvgX3YITYP3zQLyuKAA oaYnwiaIk0gW+RtikG12kPUp9RRuIVAml9ipYuedSPSdWBRyh9g20MMCeZ01788kGV4r b3yN1xsYCX0XvRkRi2GoyWJOc/0pYgU7m1ZnWA6D+qS2ZjhwNGbKHG/xr4RegvZ3sCq8 O1EMia474Mm9SqTFceqE20hMJp0ikYyg8I0VPNzH6lUPtXvcrp8MD7mfCxN92KamX0gx m9Tw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWXhkEbYeORAd1Oh0jehQByQtQnw7ztxlNcwHv49H8i/MvqJwM9 p7XzB72sBNhL3zuxOB2DSVKUJA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyp1wwDzJDba7+07whffWJsT6ALD+BdZwHwn7RHGAqkaD8r3CSxInHtn6xlpPn7cL60Z0fMgA== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:528a:: with SMTP id s10mr13860235qtn.361.1572896662409; Mon, 04 Nov 2019 11:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from nimloth.alvh.no-ip.org ([190.121.29.3]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w23sm1917648qtw.87.2019.11.04.11.44.21 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 04 Nov 2019 11:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by nimloth.alvh.no-ip.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8BC3E3015CB; Mon, 4 Nov 2019 16:44:19 -0300 (-03) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 16:44:19 -0300 From: Alvaro Herrera To: Euler Taveira Cc: Stephen Frost , Tom Lane , "imai.yoshikazu@fujitsu.com" , Andrew Gierth , Justin Pryzby , PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: v12 and pg_restore -f- Message-ID: <20191104194419.GA31861@alvherre.pgsql> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 2019-Nov-04, Euler Taveira wrote: > Em seg., 4 de nov. de 2019 ąs 16:12, Alvaro Herrera > escreveu: > > I'm not sure if we need to call out the incompatibility in the minors' > > release notes (namely, that people using "-f-" to dump to ./- will need > > to choose a different file name). > > > Should we break translations? I'm -0.5 on changing usage(). If you are > using 9.5, you know that it does not work. If you try it by accident > (because it works in v12), it will work but it is not that important > to inform it in --help (if you are in doubt, checking the docs will > answer your question). I would rather break the translations, and make all users aware if they look at --help. -- Įlvaro Herrera https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services