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charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 2025-Oct-31, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Yes, we have been avoiding the masquerade for years. The question is > can we continue. From the lack of discussion since April 1, 2025, it > seems the answer is yes. Maybe, but I think the only reason for this is that some companies are implementing it locally in their forks or whatever. I bet there are many prospective customers that we (the open source Postgres project) are not reaching because of lack of certifiability in this area. Can we continue to ignore it? My impression is that that strategy will continue to work, perhaps indefinitely. Is it a good idea? Of that I am not so sure. -- Álvaro Herrera 48°01'N 7°57'E — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/ "Once again, thank you and all of the developers for your hard work on PostgreSQL. This is by far the most pleasant management experience of any database I've worked on." (Dan Harris) http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-performance/2006-04/msg00247.php